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				<title>Diana on "Problem with Java on Firefox 24.0 (affects picture uploading, picture viewing, and other things)"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 22 Sep 2013 20:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Diana</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Safari 5.1.10 on OS 10.6.8.&#060;/p&#062;
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				<title>Greg on "Problem with Java on Firefox 24.0 (affects picture uploading, picture viewing, and other things)"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 22 Sep 2013 19:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;No, that isn't supposed to happen. I'm in Safari right now and it isn't happening here. Can you tell me the version number of your browser?
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				<title>Diana on "Problem with Java on Firefox 24.0 (affects picture uploading, picture viewing, and other things)"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 21 Sep 2013 15:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Diana</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Deactivating all the plug-ins did not work. &#038;nbsp;Oh well. &#038;nbsp;I am just going to use Safari on this computer for a while. &#038;nbsp;I did not realize how much of the internet depends on Javascript!&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;On a related note, with safari it appears I can only type in the reply box if I click it near the top (basically where it says &#034;your reply here.&#034;) &#038;nbsp;In firefox, I could click anywhere in the box and be able to type. &#038;nbsp; Is this supposed to happen in Safari?
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				<title>Diana on "Problem with Java on Firefox 24.0 (affects picture uploading, picture viewing, and other things)"</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Sep 2013 16:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Diana</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;OK, I will try that when I get home.&#038;nbsp; Thanks, Greg.&#038;nbsp; Funny thing is that I think this laptop (the work one, which works fine) has all the same plugins plus more.&#038;nbsp; &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;I forgot the reason why I don't like to use chrome.&#038;nbsp; Although I have two google accounts, I dislike being always logged in to them while I am online (I use macmail most of the time to access my gmail so I don't even log on to do that) and Chrome kept nagging about it (I haven't used it in a while though so maybe this has changed?).&#038;nbsp; Also, I'm not sure it's fully functional when not logged in.&#038;nbsp; &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;But Safari was being fairly well behaved when I was using it yesterday so I might try that for a while.
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				<title>Greg on "Problem with Java on Firefox 24.0 (affects picture uploading, picture viewing, and other things)"</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Sep 2013 16:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Strange. The thing I would try is disabling all of the plugins. If Javascript works after that then re-enable the plugins one by one and see which one is the culprit.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;I use Chrome most of the time. Chrome and Safari share (mostly) the same internal engine and I find that they generally do a better job of rendering websites than Firefox.
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				<title>Diana on "Problem with Java on Firefox 24.0 (affects picture uploading, picture viewing, and other things)"</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Sep 2013 16:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Diana</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Well, this is interesting.&#038;nbsp; My work laptop has just updated its firefox as well and everything is working fine on that computer.&#038;nbsp; It is a newer model Macbook pro but is running the same system configuration (10.6.8).&#038;nbsp; I have &#060;i&#062;more&#060;/i&#062; plugins on the work computer too.&#038;nbsp; &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;So confusing.
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				<title>Diana on "Problem with Java on Firefox 24.0 (affects picture uploading, picture viewing, and other things)"</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Sep 2013 05:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Diana</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Thanks, Greg.  I just sent the console data to you in a PM.  &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;I've changed nothing with my plugins, etc, except for the automatic firefox upgrade to 24.0.  YLF and Java were running fine yesterday on 23.  &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;These are the plugins I have (I think I have had them all for ages although I admit I haven't checked in a while):&#060;br /&#062;
iphotoPhotocast 6.0&#060;br /&#062;
Java Applet Plugin 13.9.7&#060;br /&#062;
movenetworks quantum media player npnmqmp 071701000001&#060;br /&#062;
picasa 1.0&#060;br /&#062;
quicktime 7.6.6&#060;br /&#062;
shockwave flash 11.8.800.168&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;I also have the evernote web clipper extension (v5.7).&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;As to why I prefer Firefox? At this point I'm not sure to be honest.  Just familiarity I guess.  It used to run substantially faster and hung up far less often than Safari but Safari seems to have improved a lot recently.  I also think Firefox is highly customizable, which I like, but again I think Safari has improved a lot in this regard.  &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;But maybe I should try Chrome?
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				<title>Greg on "Problem with Java on Firefox 24.0 (affects picture uploading, picture viewing, and other things)"</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Sep 2013 04:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Hi Diana,&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;From the screenshots, yes, Javascript is definitely disabled in your browser for some reason. I have FF24 on my Mac, but that isn't happening in my case. In fact, in version 23 they removed the option to disable Javascript and now you have to install a special plugin to do that.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;By the way,&#038;nbsp;&#034;Java&#034; and &#034;Javascript&#034; are actually two completely unrelated things. Most websites, like YLF, use Javascript. But very few require Java. This explains why that Java applet plugin has no effect.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Still, that doesn't help to explain why Javascript isn't working. Do you have any other plugins installed?&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Also, here's something that might give us a little more info: Right click anywhere on the page and choose &#034;Inspect Element&#034;. A new area will appear at the bottom of the page. At the top of the area, click &#034;Console&#034;. Then...
&#060;ul&#062;
&#060;li&#062;Reload the page&#060;/li&#062;
&#060;li&#062;Click in the console area&#060;/li&#062;
&#060;li&#062;Press command-a to select all&#060;/li&#062;
&#060;li&#062;Press command-c to copy all&#060;/li&#062;
&#060;li&#062;Open an email message to me&#060;/li&#062;
&#060;li&#062;Copy the console contents into the email&#038;nbsp;using command-c&#060;/li&#062;
&#060;li&#062;Send that to me&#060;/li&#062;
&#060;/ul&#062;
Finally, just out of curiosity... what is it that you prefer about Firefox?&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Cheers,&#060;br /&#062;Greg
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				<title>Diana on "Problem with Java on Firefox 24.0 (affects picture uploading, picture viewing, and other things)"</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Sep 2013 01:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Diana</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Using Safari now to upload the screenshots. &#038;nbsp;&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;#1 is what I get instead of the picture upload icon.&#060;br /&#062;#2 is what happens when I click on a photo. You can see it's a direct link to the image rather than the pop-up with navigation that I'm supposed to get.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;By the way, I am using Mac OS 10.6.8. &#038;nbsp;All my software is up to date, including (I assume) java.&#038;nbsp; The Firefox is the newest update (24.0, downloaded today). &#038;nbsp;
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Sep 2013 01:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Diana</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Hi Greg,&#060;br /&#062;
I don't really think this is a YLF bug per se, more of a problem with Firefox in general, but thought I'd let you know anyway and ask if you knew of a fix.  Basically, with today's update to Firefox 24.0, Java has stopped working (not just on YLF but everywhere).  This affects several things that I have noticed so far on YLF.  First, I can't upload photos anymore - instead of the picture upload icon, I get a message that says &#034;Please enable JavaScript if you would like to include photos in your posts.&#034;  Second, when viewing photos, the pop-up photo viewer no longer works.  Instead, clicking on a thumbnail takes me to a new page with just the one photo and I have to use the back button to get back to the forum.  Finally, the edit post/ report spam/ etc that usually pops up when you hover over the gear icon does not work.  &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;These all still work fine in Safari.  I do prefer Firefox though so I hope you know how to fix the problem!  I have read that Mozilla has decided that Java is too insecure to be always active, but that you can enable for certain sites manually.  However, on my version (for Mac) I can't figure out how to do this.  My Java applet plug-in still says &#034;always allowed&#034; but no Javascript is currently working on any site.  &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;PS - I will reply in a minute using Safari with screenshots.  (since I can't upload them on Firefox, grr...)
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