https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/ot-job-has-made-me-very-sad-this-could-change-everything-long Style Advice for Fashion Lovers en-US Wed, 29 Apr 2026 14:35:07 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/search.php https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/ot-job-has-made-me-very-sad-this-could-change-everything-long/page/2#post-332021 Thu, 14 Apr 2011 02:43:59 +0000 celia 332021@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Oh Rae, I just read this thread and I'm glad that today things don't seem so bad.<br /> I'm sure your supervisor will do the best for you because you deserve it but if things don't go that well in you staying with the same company perhaps diferent and better oportunities will open themselves in your future.<br /> I'll be crossing my fingers for a great job for you. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/ot-job-has-made-me-very-sad-this-could-change-everything-long/page/2#post-332017 Thu, 14 Apr 2011 02:38:04 +0000 Marley 332017@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Hey Rae - just got caught up on this thread. Wow - interesting information you got today! Good for you for going to your supervisor and letting her know how you were feeling! Also, I could really resonate with your passion of shopping and playing with your cats - I kind of feel the same way! </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/ot-job-has-made-me-very-sad-this-could-change-everything-long/page/2#post-332000 Thu, 14 Apr 2011 02:25:03 +0000 rae 332000@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Heaps of thanks to everyone who has shared their valuable experiences with me -- my parents did not allow me to work while I was in school, so I have very little experience of my own. Sveta, Ornela, Kari... everyone. I am super thankful to have you guys! </p> <p>My meeting today went about as well as I could have hoped. I learned one shocking fact: the broker who got the other temp hired? He's paying the salary out of his own pocket! I was told by a couple different people who did not even know I was upset about it, plus my supervisor confirmed, so I'm fairly certain it's true. This shows me that the corporation either can't or won't budge on the issue of adding new members, and I told my supervisor as much when we met. </p> <p>The good news is that I've told my supervisor is going to parlay her transfer into an opening for me... basically convince the powers that be to use the part of the budget allotted to her salary to bring me on board. She said she has three ideas about how to make this happen, and she'll bring it up in a meeting next week. </p> <p>The other good news? Well, it's that I honestly don't care which way it goes. The idea of going to work at a different company... or doing admin assistant work at an animal hospital for half my current pay... or even reselling more swap meet clothes on Ebay if I end up unemployed for a while... none of that sounds too daunting right now. And I'm still with the temp agency, so there's always that. </p> <p>Oh, and I know I'll look fab if I have to go on interviews. There's always that, too. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/ot-job-has-made-me-very-sad-this-could-change-everything-long/page/2#post-331963 Thu, 14 Apr 2011 01:30:30 +0000 Sveta 331963@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Rae, I just wanted to chime in and give you some moral support too! Above all do not expect fair treatment in a corporate world. I was never in a temp position but what Ornela written resonates with me too well. Usually people who get promoted are not necessarily the ones who do the best job. Unless you look after your interests nobody is going to do it for you - does not matter what are your relationships at work are.<br /> I don't know you financial situation but I would take this as opportunity to think what do you want to do with your career life. Sometimes these problems are the best what can happen to us as they drive you out of your comfort zone and let you explore other opportunities (here I am seconding Janet :-))<br /> You have got so much wonderful advice here and I am sure you can make a good use of it. The only thing I could add is that you need to focus not on the problem you are facing now but on finding a solution and maybe thinking outside of the box. Sometimes we get into a rut and stay there because it is too much effort to change something and there is also a danger of unknown. This situation can be a blessing in disguise for you to get out of that rut you are not happy with and get your life to a better place.<br /> Good luck - I know you can do it! </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/ot-job-has-made-me-very-sad-this-could-change-everything-long/page/2#post-331931 Thu, 14 Apr 2011 00:56:36 +0000 Ornella 331931@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Another long one...</p> <p>Rae, I hope the meeting went well. (Time zone differences are making me confused, but I think you'll have had that meeting by the time you read this post.)</p> <p>I thought about you a lot these last two days and in particular Gaylene's post. Companies do use temps and junior staff to get things done at almost no cost, it's the young, raw ambition and drive that makes this resource so desirable. Up to the point when they start asking questions, that is. I myself had mentored a guy who came to our team from another department and his dedication was humbling. A year later, with all his assignments and tests passed before the official deadline, his struggle started. There was no promised payrise, no change in grade, no bonus payment because he was officially not the right grade. I could just sit and watch how he was getting more frustrated after endless talks with managers of all levels until eventually he was snatched by another team that offered him the grade and payment he deserved. But, that was a rare happy ending. It was like innocence dying before my eyes. I didn't want to participate in the same program the following year as I knew where all that effort from another junior was heading - one big nothing.</p> <p>Personally, I can't say I have had a successful corporate career. At least not in corporate definition of success. In my own, I've done really well. Every single job that I did, I managed to contribute to things working better. And I left every place with my head held up high. Your words in your first post "I love my co-workers and my managers" really resonated with me. That has always been one of my main reasons to stay at any job - and not the stereotypical one if you wanted to climb the ladder. I am a typical engineer who likes to roll up my sleeves, get on with things, solve a problem and sit back and enjoy the fruit of my labour. Couple that with a great set of people around, opportunities to learn and what more do you want. Well, big places don't work like that, all that "love my colleagues" is nice, but doesn't get you far - if far is where you want to go. In my last job I was literally ran over by a newcomer who joined my team two years into the project I was the most senior team member on, she worked half-time, had no my background or experience, but her networking skills had guaranteed her promotion that had kept being promised to me - all in shockingly short amount of time that everyone kept asking *me* what happened because it made no sense whatsoever.</p> <p>You are very lucky to have this experience this early in your professional life. You can learn so much from this. Where and how you want to take your career further? How to position yourself at your next place? How much to actually attach yourself to any place and care for the people? Do you want to work for a big corporation or a smaller, more independent place? What are the warning signs to pay attention to earlier? All I can say is keep your CV up to date all the time and keep your eye on the market always, so you can be in position to call the shots yourself, not react as a result of the circumstances. </p> <p>Finally, once again I just want to stress out that this development had nothing to do with how you did your job. It's simply how things work. I am not saying this in a defeated tone of voice. It's just a fact so you can decide how you want to take things further. And whatever you decide, keep your integrity intact and remain your beautiful self. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/ot-job-has-made-me-very-sad-this-could-change-everything-long/page/2#post-331126 Wed, 13 Apr 2011 00:57:44 +0000 Jonesy 331126@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>I don't have anything to add--everyone has offered you such wonderful, insightful advice. Just wanted to commiserate. I hope you can find a job that is permanent and pays you what you are worth! </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/ot-job-has-made-me-very-sad-this-could-change-everything-long/page/2#post-331122 Wed, 13 Apr 2011 00:53:13 +0000 Kari 331122@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Sheesh - I'm sorry, I didn't realize I had written a novel! </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/ot-job-has-made-me-very-sad-this-could-change-everything-long/page/2#post-331120 Wed, 13 Apr 2011 00:52:40 +0000 Kari 331120@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>*hugs to you* Rae, I hear where you are coming from, and I have been in a very similar situation in a previous job. Unfortunately, what Una wrote - "I finally realized temping was the easiest way for employers to avoid providing benefits or job security and still get high quality work." - is not only accurate, but is also apparently getting to be more prevalent. </p> <p>(In many business/HR training courses that I have taken in the past year, I have heard over and over again that many business professionals are predicting that in the future, *most* employees will be contingent staff, whether as temporary employees or independent contractors. I don't say that to be depressing - it worries me, too, particularly since I am also currently in an administrative position that could be outsourced or filled by a temporary employee - but many of us may also be in the same boat eventually. And even for employees who are hired on full time... there is no such thing as a "permanent" job. It's just one of the realities that is hitting us in a really, really terrible job market when employers are trying to trim costs wherever possible. To be honest, I don't feel all that secure about the long-term future of *my* job, either... when I went on vacation recently, I was very relieved that my job still existed when I returned.)</p> <p>In fact, my boyfriend is currently in a similar position, and is also trying to make an industry switch. I'm very, very tired of seeing him get disappointed after multiple rounds of interviews over and over again.</p> <p>Given the tough but improving job market, if you can stand it I would recommend staying put until you can find another job, if only to preserve qualifying for unemployment benefits in case your job *does* end involuntarily, and also because it gives you the flexibility of putting out feelers for potential new jobs without feeling rushed or financially pressed to do so in a certain timeframe.</p> <p>Even if the current situation with your job is getting you down, you have gained some great experience and have direct supervisors that obviously respect you and will vouch for your work ethic. Particularly when your current supervisor moves to a different group, maybe you can see if she would be willing to serve as a business reference for you if you are looking elsewhere. Not being your manager any longer, you might be able to develop your working relationship with her to more of a mentorship where she might feel more comfortable being candid with you if she isn't your direct boss. I'm not trying to put a Pollyanna spin on the situation, and I'm really sorry that things currently have not worked out the way you hoped they would, but I also think you have potential to make the best of what is still good about your job. Just an idea. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/ot-job-has-made-me-very-sad-this-could-change-everything-long/page/2#post-331100 Wed, 13 Apr 2011 00:23:59 +0000 chouette22 331100@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>I have no new advice but just wanted to say how sorry I am that this is happening to you. Stay strong and positive! </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/ot-job-has-made-me-very-sad-this-could-change-everything-long/page/2#post-331090 Wed, 13 Apr 2011 00:15:42 +0000 Katiepea 331090@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Rae, just wanted to jump in and say that I'm so sorry you are going through this. You sound like you have been doing and *amazing* job and ANY organisation would be lucky to have you. </p> <p>Even though it can be really hard when you feel this way, I truly believe that the worst thing you can do is to do nothing, as this situation is understandably bothering you. Channel your disappointment to be proactive, please see this as an opportunity for growth.</p> <p>Do up your resume; chase contacts who may be able to offer you alternative employment (who knows, there may be better opportunities); have a chat with your current supervisor who is leaving and make sure you have her forward contact details so she can easily act as a reference for you; contact recruitment agencies (if applicable) and so forth.</p> <p>The only thing I worry is that if you have an honest chat about your situation ~before~ you do any of the other stuff I've mentioned above is that if it goes poorly it could make you feel even more stuck and unappreciated at work. And that would suck the big cahoona.</p> <p>I know from my own personal experience, that it is better to say something, mean it and take affirmative action, than to speak up and then do nothing.</p> <p>Take care and best of luck. I hope you feel better soon. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/ot-job-has-made-me-very-sad-this-could-change-everything-long/page/2#post-331083 Wed, 13 Apr 2011 00:08:28 +0000 MNsara 331083@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Aww, Rae - your situation sounds all too familiar. You have gotten such great advice :-)</p> <p>I agree with Bella about starting to look around. It's a lot of effort but you may get a clearer picture of how good/bad your current place is, how good/bad other options are, and help solidify your feelings about what's right for you.</p> <p>I also liked Gaylene's comments about careful consideration in who you might bring this up with at work. </p> <p>I've seen some of the most illogical, clearly bad business decisions made and can only shake my head in bewilderment. . . :-\ </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/ot-job-has-made-me-very-sad-this-could-change-everything-long#post-331080 Wed, 13 Apr 2011 00:06:43 +0000 rae 331080@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Crwilson, I am so sorry you are going through a similar situation, though I thank you for the solidarity. </p> <p>A few of you have mentioned the "dream path" or a similar concept... I suppose one thing that has kept me in this job so long is that I have no dream path. It may sound strange, but I seriously have no passion in life that I can point to and say, "Yeah, I'd love a career doing that!" If asked the famous Office Space question (if you could do anything, what would you do?) I'd shop for clothes and play with the cats all day. o_0</p> <p>But I'm NOT being negative here... this just means I'll be equally satisfied with most jobs, as long as I'm treated well and the people around me are nice. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/ot-job-has-made-me-very-sad-this-could-change-everything-long#post-331037 Tue, 12 Apr 2011 22:42:21 +0000 crwilson 331037@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Rae - my sympathy goes out to you, as I'm in a not dissimilar situation, and I know how stressful and trying it can be. I think the advice to look for another job is good, and I second Gaylene's advice about trying to find someone who will be honest with you about what your chances of getting a permanent job actually are. A lot of times it does seem like employers are happy to exploit workers who do a fantastic job, without actually giving them compensation for that job, but there's my negative perspective coming through. </p> <p>I do think these situations, though, offer the opportunity to question if you're really on your dream path and, if not, how you can make the necessary changes in your life. </p> <p>What I'm doing in the meantime - since I'm in a field where there are very, very few jobs and I'm geographically stuck - is trying to cultivate passions outside of work so that it doesn't feel so devastating that I'm not advancing the way I would like to be. Easier said than done, I know. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/ot-job-has-made-me-very-sad-this-could-change-everything-long#post-331027 Tue, 12 Apr 2011 22:15:36 +0000 catgirl 331027@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Rae, sorry to hear this and sorry I didn't post earlier. I temped for 2 years before going to law school, when I finally realized temping was the easiest way for employers to avoid providing benefits or job security and still get high quality work. I think you will ultimately be better off by moving on, and you have gotten some great advice already. Just sending lots of hugs and reassurance - you are obviously a stellar employee to have been "temping" for so long in the same position. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/ot-job-has-made-me-very-sad-this-could-change-everything-long#post-330984 Tue, 12 Apr 2011 21:09:13 +0000 Aida 330984@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Rae I can't offer any advice, but I offer lots of hugs! You are wise for looking at this in light of the big picture, and I hope your meeting with your supervisor can shed some insight for you. I like Bella's advice, it's what I would do in this situation. I would also keep the boots because I know they make you happy </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/ot-job-has-made-me-very-sad-this-could-change-everything-long#post-330947 Tue, 12 Apr 2011 20:24:23 +0000 Debbie 330947@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Hopefully you will find some answers tomorrow. Sometimes we need motivation to move on. You will find something better with more opportunity for growth. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/ot-job-has-made-me-very-sad-this-could-change-everything-long#post-330938 Tue, 12 Apr 2011 20:18:32 +0000 rosee 330938@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>you have received great advice already. So a big virtual hug!</p> <p>I guess what I would do, is keep working hard as long as you remain at this company. Definitely start looking elsewhere, and once you see what opportunities show up, you can decide better how you are going to handle the situation. You are wise to not take it that personally (though it stings) and to look at the bigger picture. Something good will pop up soon enough. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/ot-job-has-made-me-very-sad-this-could-change-everything-long#post-330922 Tue, 12 Apr 2011 20:01:45 +0000 Kappy 330922@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Sorry this is happening to you. Unfortunately, companies don't always hand out money, promotions and/or jobs to the best but quiet hard-workers. Sometimes it's the squeaky cog that gets the grease!!! The other temp may very well have threatened to leave or already had another offer from a different company which gave your company the impetus to offer him a full-time position.</p> <p>I think Bella's advice is sound. Do NOT take it personally or get mad about it. Just use it as an opportunity to decide what you really want and go after it. It also sounds like your current supervisor doesn't have a lot of "clout" in your company which may be negatively affecting your chances. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/ot-job-has-made-me-very-sad-this-could-change-everything-long#post-330919 Tue, 12 Apr 2011 19:55:12 +0000 Angie 330919@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>That's the spirit, Rae. I am proud of your maturity and positive outlook. You found a silver lining. Not easy! </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/ot-job-has-made-me-very-sad-this-could-change-everything-long#post-330917 Tue, 12 Apr 2011 19:53:11 +0000 cloud9 330917@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Hi Rae.. I can totally relate to what you are feeling right now, as I recently went thru similar situation (a veteran being passed over for a promotion to a newbie). So terrible you have to go thru this. Hugs to you! After some introspection, I've decided that this was a kick-in-the-pants for me to move on. You have to look after yourself as no one would do as much as you yourself. Our company is hiring. If you are interested, PM me and let me know what type of positions you are interested, there are definitely admin ones... Hang in there.. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/ot-job-has-made-me-very-sad-this-could-change-everything-long#post-330903 Tue, 12 Apr 2011 19:33:45 +0000 Niki Lea 330903@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Rae, I'm so sorry. My sister went through something very similar and she found it very frustrating to watch others excel, some who were not as talented but fell into opportunities thanks to luck. </p> <p>Loyalty should be a two way street. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/ot-job-has-made-me-very-sad-this-could-change-everything-long#post-330881 Tue, 12 Apr 2011 19:04:27 +0000 rae 330881@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Thank you all for your input and positive thoughts! I am so grateful to have so many wise, compassionate people to talk to at a time like this. I have an appointment to speak with my supervisor tomorrow... I am sort of starting to think along the lines of Janet's comment... about this possibly being a kick in the pants to try a new path. I am definitely not married to my current industry, so it could be an opportunity to try looking for something more rewarding. [forcing positive thoughts]. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/ot-job-has-made-me-very-sad-this-could-change-everything-long#post-330854 Tue, 12 Apr 2011 17:59:00 +0000 Linn 330854@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Hang in there Rae - best wishes! </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/ot-job-has-made-me-very-sad-this-could-change-everything-long#post-330821 Tue, 12 Apr 2011 17:16:44 +0000 RandomThoughts (Andrea) 330821@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>I'm so sorry, Rae. I have no advice for you, just a big virtual hug. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/ot-job-has-made-me-very-sad-this-could-change-everything-long#post-330817 Tue, 12 Apr 2011 17:00:32 +0000 MsMary 330817@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Oh, boy! That sucks! I'm so sorry this is happening -- it really stings, doesn't it? Those people are nuts because you are a treasure!!</p> <p>I think all the advice is great, especially Bella's. And I think you should keep the boots because in the scheme of things the money you paid for them won't make all that much difference, and the boots make you happy. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/ot-job-has-made-me-very-sad-this-could-change-everything-long#post-330816 Tue, 12 Apr 2011 16:59:44 +0000 Janet 330816@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Bella already gave the advice I was going to offer, but I still just want to chime in with another voice of support and encouragement. It certainly sounds like you've been doing everything right, but circumstances often don't pan out the way we'd like. </p> <p>However, as someone who was laid off from my last full-time employment over 11 years ago, I must say in retrospect that the change was just the kick in the pants I needed. I had gotten comfortable in a place that was doomed, and after being let go, I made the leap to start my own business, which in turn has led me down some wonderful and unexpected paths. </p> <p>This may be the beginning of something new and great for you. Investigate new options! </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/ot-job-has-made-me-very-sad-this-could-change-everything-long#post-330809 Tue, 12 Apr 2011 16:52:35 +0000 thimblelina 330809@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Hey Rae... you are in my thoughts... Very shabby situation all around. Know you will rise to the top after this swirling around -- you are pure unadulterated cream as far as I have seen... 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But I will say that you need extra TLC right now so keep the boots. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/ot-job-has-made-me-very-sad-this-could-change-everything-long#post-330748 Tue, 12 Apr 2011 15:48:15 +0000 Diana 330748@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Oh dear... how annoying! I'm so sorry you have to deal with this. I agree with Bella - don't quit without having something else lined up, but definitely start looking around for new jobs. (That way, you won't be unemployed and you can keep the boots!) If you trust your current supervisor enough to keep her mouth shut that you are looking for new jobs, you should definitely enlist her help re: recommendations, suggestions, etc. </p>