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				<title>anne on "OT : At what point do you get outside help with dieting"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2011 15:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>anne</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Polly thanks for that link and the search suggestions&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Suz - I didn't see your link to egg suggestions before. Thanks for that. Actually my daughters do like eggs; they are just shocked at the idea of eating them for breakfast (conservative little things). But it is always good to get egg suggestions because when the weather is right we get 6 a day to use up!&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;And your mention of okinomyaki took me back! I lived in Japan for a while in the 90's and initially it was one of my favourite dishes (til I had it a bit too often)
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				<title>Polly (thunalata) on "OT : At what point do you get outside help with dieting"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2011 13:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Polly (thunalata)</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I've been thinking about what you said about eating sugar, Anne, here and on a previous thread. Try googling 'sugar cravings' and see what you come up with.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;This article from the UK looks interesting as a start:&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;&#060;a href=&#034;http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/features/get-rid-of-that-sweet-tooth-how-to-quit-sugar-938730.html&#034; rel=&#034;nofollow&#034;&#062;http://www.independent.co.uk/l.....38730.html&#060;/a&#062;
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				<title>Steph on "OT : At what point do you get outside help with dieting"</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2011 15:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Steph</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Khris' suggestions are good for going out.  If you are going to diner-type places, you can always get cereal--it is usually in one of those little individual boxes, so you know the portion is small, and then get it with skim milk.  I usually get an egg white omelette with broccoli and dry toast (of which I try to eat only one slice).  I feel like breakfast is the easiest meal to eat out of you're dieting.  &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Another trick is to only eat half of the portion and take the other half home (or give it to a homeless person on the way out, if you live and eat out in a big city).
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				<title>MsMary on "OT : At what point do you get outside help with dieting"</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2011 15:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Tarzy, almost all of the chain restaurants have nutritional information online.  I look up and plan before I go.  (And man!  It's disheartening!  That food is FULL of fat and calories!)  For the neighborhood places, you have to estimate.  &#060;a href=&#034;http://www.calorieking.com&#034; rel=&#034;nofollow&#034;&#062;http://www.calorieking.com&#060;/a&#062; has a HUGE database of all kinds of different foods and I often go there when I'm trying to figure out what I ate.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Oops!  You didn't ask about estimating calories.  You asked about controlling portions.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Never mind.
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				<title>chewyspaghetti on "OT : At what point do you get outside help with dieting"</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2011 15:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Fruit is always low cal- what about a fruit cup and yogurt? Or egg white omlette? Or oatmeal?
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				<title>tarzy on "OT : At what point do you get outside help with dieting"</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2011 15:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Laura - I just signed up for MyFitnessPal as well! It's amazing! Thank you so much for the recommendation! &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;It's just the thing I need to keep track of my cals. I love how I can also see my sodium (I have high blood pressure) as well as cholesterol (ditto) and the others. It seems I have no trouble eating protein - I've exceeded my daily allowance each day so far. But I'm doing well with the cals. &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;One question - I can measure and weigh at home, no problem, but my husband likes to eat out on the weekends. How do I control my portions when we eat out? &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;And any suggestions for a good diet friendly breakfast out?
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				<title>anne on "OT : At what point do you get outside help with dieting"</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2011 04:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>anne</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Thanks Suz and Laura!
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				<title>Laura on "OT : At what point do you get outside help with dieting"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 17:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Anne, I am glad you tried MyFitnessPal. It really is a godsend in monitoring your intake. As for me, I have just about eaten up my calories for today  <span aria-hidden="true" class="emoticon emoticon-smile icon-emoticon-smile "></span>  At least I know!&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;True confession: I am a total sugar addict. I would totally be eating sugar out of a bag with you. This spring, I did a cleanse at my yoga studio that involved giving up caffeine, sugar, alcohol, red meat and dairy. I also pretty much gave up wheat, but that was my own choice. So I was eating hot oat bran cereal for breakfast, tofu and brown rice for lunch, dried mangoes for a sweet snack, and a soup and salad for dinner. I can't tell you how much better I felt!
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				<title>anne on "OT : At what point do you get outside help with dieting"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 14:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>anne</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Isis - translations here&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Tea - is the evening meal - Some Australians say dinner. I think we are following northern english usage. (&#034;afternoon tea&#034; in Australia is a mid afternoon snack while supper is a late night snack, or the refreshments following an evening entertainment)&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Pumpkin - we eat it roasted, steamed (my usual for the family) or in soup. Sometimes Aussies mash it with potato. I prefer the Japanese or Kent variety to the typical australian queensland blue. Butternut can be nice too.&#060;br /&#062;
Sweet cooking with pumpkins is pretty much confined to pumpkin scones or pumpkin in (dried) fruit cakes in Aus, though I grew up with Mum occasionally making pumpkin icecream and pumpkin custard ( similiar to filling in pumpkin pies). You rarely see canned pumpkin here&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Pulses - beans, chickpeas, lentils&#060;br /&#062;
We have sweet potatos  (the orange, kumara variety) here too and actually they are a great favourite of mine. When they are in season we will have them as a pumpkin alternative. They are too expensive (in our house) to substitute for potatoes or rice etc for most of the year
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				<title>Suz on "OT : At what point do you get outside help with dieting"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 13:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Suz</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Sounds good, Anne. TTOTM can definitely make us wonky, and apparently women typically eat about 200 calories more for the days preceding their periods...and need it! &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;You are on the right track! Cutting out the sugary stuff will do it for you.
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				<title>Isis on "OT : At what point do you get outside help with dieting"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 13:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Anne, This is a little OT, but I just wanted to comment on how different your Australian (?) English is from my American English when you write about food and meals!  I don't notice it very often when you talk about clothes, but I'm mystified when I read about your kids' meals!&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;1.  Is &#034;tea&#034; the same thing as dinner/supper (the evening meal?)  Do you drink tea at that meal?&#060;br /&#062;
2.  How do you eat pumpkin?&#060;br /&#062;
3.  What are pulses?&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;It is interesting!  For what it is worth, I always had a big bowl of fruit, and milk in the 'frig that my kids could serve themselves anytime.  As they got older, they could also make themselves PB &#038;amp; J's on whole wheat.  (peanut butter and jelly on whole meal).....&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;We often eat sweet potatoes, which, like brown rice, are full of fiber and very filling.....
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				<title>anne on "OT : At what point do you get outside help with dieting"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 13:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>anne</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Back to the issues at the beginning of my thread - and what is making me feel my eating is out of control.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Probably the biggest is hormonal. I started TOM yesterday and as usual the frantic eating stops, as does the grumpy stressed Mummy of the previous few days! I expect my weight would go down a bit (my concern was that was the highest &#034;high point&#034; in the cycle that I'd had)&#060;br /&#062;
Other issues - tend to comfort feed when procrastinating over a difficult task, stressed over things with kids.&#060;br /&#062;
Lack of self control - if there is leftover icing in the fridge I will eat it!  Tend to eat too much while cooking.&#060;br /&#062;
We have people around to eat a lot, and this has its own eating temptations.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;I feel much better now than when I first wrote and logged my days eating on the website Laura recommended (have worked out more how to use it now) and made it though a day with almost no sugar or simple carbs. 1400 calories, which is about what was recommended on the site for slow weight loss. It did reveal to me how what I usually eat could add up to a lot more than that.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;So I think for the moment I will put off seeing someone (and if I do, get the sense it would be better to go the dietician route). But the real litmus test will be in a few weeks time  <span aria-hidden="true" class="emoticon emoticon-smile icon-emoticon-smile "></span>  and when I am stressed or tempted.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Thanks so much again for the advice and support!
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				<title>Suz on "OT : At what point do you get outside help with dieting"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 13:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Suz</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Yes, the advice many of us received (e.g. super low fat) and the financial constraints many of us faced (or that our parents faced) do influence our food choices, for sure. &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Eggs: I have had success getting my daughter to enjoy these by trying to make them different than the norm. So, sometimes I make a veggie omelet/frittata, into which I put a bit of ham or bacon or something...just a bit...because that's what she likes more than the veggies. But the veggie taste sort of disappears...&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;I also make &#034;sweet&#034; omelettes with sliced apple, or even leftover sweet potato and cinnamon and put a bit of maple syrup on that...she loves those. Sort of like a big protein pancake. &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;And I make Japanese Okonomi (or similar styled) with ginger, green onion, spinach or other veggies and okonomi sauce (which is salty/soy based and also a bit sweet). &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;And sometimes I give her devilled eggs with paprika and curry...she loves it because it is a change. &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Oh - another way to sneak eggs in is to give French toast!
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				<title>anne on "OT : At what point do you get outside help with dieting"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 13:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>anne</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Hi Suz - bacon may go down well, and we keep chickens so could do eggs though I suspect she wouldn't be keen.&#060;br /&#062;
We do have soup too, and I have the ingredients ready to make two soups with vegies.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;I have received suggestions (outside YLF) to up her protein and I am trying, though I am fighting against my upbringing, which was intentionally high carb/ low protein, and cost considerations&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;ETA I just read your post again and you were saying it _didn't_ have to be bacon - sorry.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 13:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Suz</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Anne, looks as if you are a good mum, working hard to ensure your kids get a healthy diet! In terms of hunger pangs for the young one, I suspect that if she had a bit more protein (esp. at breakfast) she would last better. So eggs (if not allergic) or legumes or meat...doesn't have to be &#034;breakfast&#034; meat like bacon. In winter, my daughter loves my homemade chicken soup for breakfast! Especially if she has a bit of a cold. Soup is also a great way to get more vegetables into kids, and you can make a big pot once a week and then have it through the week. &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Anyway...in addition to fibre, protein and fat are what help us maintain that &#034;full&#034; feeling. Without enough of either of these we will get hungry faster, especially if we are eating simple carbohydrates (i.e. sweets, starchy things.)
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				<title>anne on "OT : At what point do you get outside help with dieting"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 12:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>anne</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;MPJ = here goes&#060;br /&#062;
This is for DD8&#060;br /&#062;
Breakfast - porridge (rolled oats) with milk and sugar or sugar or weetbix (4-6) with milk, sugar and plain nonfat yoghurt&#060;br /&#062;
&#034;brain food&#034; - 1/2 carrot cut up ( this is food they can eat during school at their desk)&#060;br /&#062;
morning tea - a couple of wholemeal crackers, 3 cherry tomatoes&#060;br /&#062;
Lunch - cheese sandwich (wholemeal bread) and an apple. A bit of cake or homemade slice if I happen to have any  (not everything always gets eaten)&#060;br /&#062;
Water to Drink throughout the day&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;After school - a bit variable. Sometimes nothing, sometimes an apple or plum, maybe some cake or a slice or wholewheat crakers.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Tea (about 5:30pm)   Rice, pasta or potatoes and bread with some meat eggs or pulses. Vegies - carrot or pumpkin. Peas or brocolli (she will have seconds of some vegies.Not a big salad eater.)  Usually has second helpings Dessert - often tinned fruit and yoghurt or apple crumble or one lolly or chocolate from a box we have been given or a party. Milo to finish.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Tonight she didn't ask for a post meal feed!&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;ETA: I agree with you on fibre and fullness. tonight I ate 155g of brown rice and boy can I still feel it! However I have had very little success getting my kids (or husband) to appreciate brown pasta or rice
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				<title>Mamapicklejuice on "OT : At what point do you get outside help with dieting"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 12:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Foods high in fiber are very nutritious for you, and an added benefit is that you feel satisfied longer after a meal...try to load up their plates with food like that. &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;What is a typical breakfast/lunch/dinner for them?  (Particularly one where they are snacking 1/2 hour later?)
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				<title>Louise on "OT : At what point do you get outside help with dieting"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 08:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Experiment with portion sizes. Every luchtime I am amazed at how much some children will eat. Perhaps try adult portion of veggies or salad x
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				<title>Louise on "OT : At what point do you get outside help with dieting"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 08:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Keep the fruit bowl well stocked and snacks like cucumber and carrot sticks then if they are still hungry they can munch on those. I have some kiddies at work who within 30 mins of eating a good lunch are hungry so they stock up on fruit x
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				<title>Steph on "OT : At what point do you get outside help with dieting"</title>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I'm not a parent, but I just discussed this issue with my boyfriend and his sisters.  They all say that they were always hungry growing up.  Their mother is quite thin and has never had a large appetite.  As a result, she didn't give them very large meals.  All of her children were constantly hungry, but because she couldn't put herself in their position, she didn't give them more food.  More than 20 years later, they still talk about it!  So I would say if your children aren't overweight and are eating healthy food, let them eat as much as they want.  (I would probably say that even if they were a bit overweight but were eating healthy food--kids go through weird growth spurts where first they gain weight and then shoot up in height and slim down.)  If you're really concerned, you can always talk to their pediatrician.
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				<title>Suz on "OT : At what point do you get outside help with dieting"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 02:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Anne, the out of control feeling is such a scary one. That's what I think you need to hone in on. You might want to talk with someone to try to figure out why this is happening now...how this behaviour is serving you, what its purpose is. Because somehow, it is an attempt to cope with something in your current situation. The question is, what? &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;I was going to recommend Kessler's book, too. &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;I have recently completed a weight loss program and that reading that book was one of our assignments! He is very persuasive on the addictive nature of processed foods.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;It sounds as if your daughter is going through a growth spurt. They do start to need a lot more food around her age. If her weight is fine and she is snacking on healthy foods, it is not a problem. I found with my daughter at that age that she never bothered to eat much at lunch because the lunch break was so short and she was too distracted to get much food down (she is a slow eater). So I always made sure she had a large snack after school.  &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Hang in there. You are actually in a great position; you are catching yourself in the act, noticing and naming before things get REALLY out of control. And you know what? The key factors influencing whether people will actually take weight off and keep weight off (apart from portion control and exercise) are actually accountability and the support of a group like this. So speaking up to us here is your first step at taking the control you want.
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				<title>Isis on "OT : At what point do you get outside help with dieting"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 01:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Isis</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Sounds like they are doing fine, and your kids need to eat that much!  You are feeding them healthy foods!&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;If you'd rather they not eat as much in the evening, perhaps you've hit the nail on the head with trying to give them more variety/better food in their lunches and snacks so they're not as hungry in the evening.
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				<title>anne on "OT : At what point do you get outside help with dieting"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 01:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>anne</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;My kids are nearly 8, 5 and 3 but it is mostly the older one. She is allowed, and takes, extra helpings at meals, has desserts and a cup of milo (an australian milk drink) but within half an hour she is always hungry. And I give her more food.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Sometimes the younger 2 are hungry too and I have learnt that if the youngest does  not get more food they will be up too early in the morning demanding breakfast!&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;They don't eat that much for their school lunches or after school snacks (they probably would if I gave them yummier food!)  The oldest  and youngest eat a LOT for breakfast
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				<title>GGB on "OT : At what point do you get outside help with dieting"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 01:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Hi Anne,&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;How old are your children?  If my 5 or 7 year old is hungry outside of mealtime, I have some easy things on hand that they can have: fruit, yogurt with cheerios or granola, rice pudding, some hummus with veggies or crackers, a cheese stick or a Baby Bel, a glass of milk  or hot cocoa with cookies. &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Good luck!
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				<title>Isis on "OT : At what point do you get outside help with dieting"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 01:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Anne,  how old are your kids?  And are you saying that they are hungry at the evening meal, but remain hungry after the meal is done?  I must be missing something, but can you make a larger meal so they can eat more?  If they are old enough to feed themselves, can they help themselves to fruit and milk in the evening if they want a snack?
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				<title>Queen Mum on "OT : At what point do you get outside help with dieting"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 01:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Just want to confess that I too am not above eating brown sugar out of the bag  <span aria-hidden="true" class="emoticon emoticon-smile icon-emoticon-smile "></span> 
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				<title>anne on "OT : At what point do you get outside help with dieting"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 01:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>anne</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Morning now.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Thanks so much for the extra input. I have to run now , but just wanted to say that I have logged into myfitnesspal (how do you get it to recognise different quantities of milk btw?) and looked up the Kessler book - my library doesn't have it so I may do an ILL.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;You guys are so supportive and helpful. I am really touched.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;One more question - my children are often hungry and not satisfied by my evening meals and I think the constant trying to work out how to feed them is probably influencing my own food intake. Possibly because it is the beginning of winter here. They are not overweight. Any thoughts?
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				<title>MsMary on "OT : At what point do you get outside help with dieting"</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 21:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Not to over-share, but honestly I am completely convinced that the ONLY way for me personally to maintain the low level of calories I need to maintain is to eat food that is as non-processed as possible.  When I can stick to things like brown rice, chicken, lean meat, greens, a little cheese, a hard-boiled egg or two, and maybe some berries, I feel SO MUCH BETTER and am able to manage my weight SO MUCH MORE EASILY.  When I let the sweets and snacks and alcohol creep in, that's when I start to have troubles.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Bottom line is &#034;eating as recreation&#034; has to be a VERY occasional thing, not a regular way of life.  It kinda stinks, but there it is.
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				<title>Cilleena on "OT : At what point do you get outside help with dieting"</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 20:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Cilleena</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Nodding at MaryK again!  Anne, it sounds like you have dump the sugar and starchy carbs.  I started Weightwatchers about 2 months ago and it has changed my eating habits.  I have only lost about 6 pounds, but whoa do I feel better!  DH has told me that the program is worth it even if I don't lose a single pound because my mood is so much better.  It has naturally curbed me away from chips, cookies, and other processed foods.  It doesn't work for everyone, I'm sure.  I hope I'm not breaking any rules talking about it here, but it has made a world of difference for me.
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				<title>Dashrashi on "OT : At what point do you get outside help with dieting"</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 20:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Dashrashi</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I have days when I just can't stop eating. (e.g. Monday. It was epic.) If it's not happening too often, I try to basically &#034;let go and let God.&#034; If, however, it becomes a little bit of trend, I have to do some tough-love time at home where I retrain myself into feeling the difference between mouth-hungry and stomach-hungry. It starts with SIMPLY NO FOOD except at prescribed times, stopping before I would like to (and letting myself notice that, hmm, 10 minutes later I'm NOT still stomach-hungry), and actively focusing on the state of my stomach-hunger and actively registering and then disregarding my mouth-hunger. &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;This is deeply, deeply not physician-approved, though. (Although I once saw a social worker recommend a variation to a client on &#034;True Life,&#034; for the minimal amount that's worth. Very validating!)
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