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				<title>KikiG on "Older than what? (Rant!)"</title>
				<link>https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/older-than-what-rant/page/2#post-1439868</link>
				<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 20:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Interesting. &#038;nbsp;&#060;br /&#062;I want to be the best and most attractive version of myself I can manage. This involves hair color and thinking about fashion, and just&#038;nbsp;&#060;i&#062;trying&#060;/i&#062;. &#038;nbsp;I feel so much better about every aspect of my life taking this approach. &#038;nbsp;&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;My mother essentially gave up on her personal appearance in her early 30s when she stopped coloring her hair. &#038;nbsp;When she was my age, she was wearing frumpy pantsuits with short&#038;nbsp;gray hair in no particular style. &#038;nbsp;While she wore makeup, it didn't look like she was, and didn't make much of a difference. &#038;nbsp;I look at old pictures, do the math, and I'm shocked at how she pretty much turned 30, decided she was 'old' and then made it happen. &#038;nbsp;I had lots of time growing up to think about her approach, and not take it. &#038;nbsp;&#060;/p&#062;
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				<title>Echo on "Older than what? (Rant!)"</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 19:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Echo</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;^ I guess I've always looked at it from a slightly different perspective. If you are 45 and look great, that is what 45 looks like. If people tell me I look younger than I am, I don't think I actually do look younger. I simply think that person has an outdated perception of what 44 looks like. Most of my friends my age (I am 44) look GREAT. Do I think we look 30? Absolutely not, because we are what ages 40-45 look like.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;And Minnie, you are absolutely right that a 20 year old woman and a 40 year old woman are worlds apart, not just in looks, but in their composure, confidence and attitude (or at least hopefully all those things are different). Youth is beautiful, no doubt about it. But women at every age can be beautiful and captivating and fascinating in all sorts of ways. People really limit themselves when they think that only one age, one look, one weight, one style or one anything can be beautiful.&#038;nbsp;&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;A lot of things can be argued from the point of evolutionary biology. But &#034;nature&#034; doesn't outlaw murder or grant human rights, either. In other words, there is a lot more to human beings than biology.&#060;/p&#062;
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				<title>Minnie on "Older than what? (Rant!)"</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 18:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I've been thinking about looking older (or younger) since reading this thread yesterday.&#060;br /&#062;My personal experience is that hardly anybody really looks considerably older or younger than their age, once you take the time to truly look at them (and assuming they are not ill, which may affect looks)&#060;br /&#062;I think certain things can make a person appear older &#060;i&#062;at first glance&#060;/i&#062;: &#060;br /&#062;bad posture; shuffling gait / not moving in a youthful way; facial wrinkles and sagging;&#038;nbsp;grey/white hair......&#060;br /&#062;Other things initially may&#038;nbsp;make a person appear more youthful: glossy hair; moving gracefully; toned body; certain clothes; smooth, glowing skin...&#060;br /&#062;However, once you really look at them in real life, not photos, I think most people actually do look their age range. &#060;br /&#062;I'm friends with&#038;nbsp;a woman who is absolutely convinced that she looks 15 years younger&#038;nbsp;(20 years on a good day) than she is. But when you look at a woman who is really that younger age, there is no way they would ever pass as being&#038;nbsp;the same age.&#060;br /&#062;Do any of you know&#038;nbsp;women who, on closer inspection,&#038;nbsp;truly look considerably older or younger than they are?&#060;/p&#062;
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				<title>Staysfit on "Older than what? (Rant!)"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2015 13:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Runcarla, this response became longer than expected!  Your mother sounds A bit like mine.  I see the generational influence is strong.  I have had short hair since High School when I had it cut into a pixie because I had two swim team practices a day, and it didn't dry - ever!  I have loved it short ever since.  I color my hair right now, and probably will continue to for a long time.  I'm not sure I'm ready to embrace grey hair.  My paternal grandmother whom I loved dearly was prematurely grey, and her hair was beautiful.   She never colored her hair.   My maternal grandmother colored her hair and wore heels right to the end of her 92 years of life.  My mother, aunt, and first cousins who are older than me, all continue to color their hair.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;My mother recently told me that I should grow my hair long again.  When I asked her why, she told me that men consider long hair more attractive.  I hate to admit, but it was a good thing I had a hands free phone, because I was rolling on the floor with laughter.   There is more than one reason this was funny to me.  My mother is an interesting lady.  She is a well educated professional in a male dominated field, and has continued to work full time into her mid 70's and shows no sign of stopping.  She knows that as a physician I have also worked in a male dominated profession (especially in my training, and early career).   She obviously knows that I have been with my husband for 29+ years and happily married for 27.  So why in the world would I need to be more attractive to men???  &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Oh, this reminded me that when I was on the swim team, my mother became alarmed.  She warned me that it would be bad for me to exercise so much or to lift weights because I might become too muscular which would be unattractive to men.  (Clearly her fears never came true because even with weight lifting, I was a bean pole in High School).  Once again the theme of doing what is attractive for men....In my mothers case I now see her comment as having a strong influence of generational standards.  I am fascinated by how easily my mother fell pray to it even with her education and background.  Can you imagine anyone in the United States or Canada discouraging their children to exercise now?!  What do you think?&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;I am going to turn everything on its head a bit now and say that the long hair being attractive for men is actually something that is supposedly reproductively sound.  Thick, shiny, long hair signifies health and fertility and men would therefore be  more prone to pick a partner with long hair.  I suspect my mom may be onto something with the muscular arms and shoulders thing also. The more classically feminine one looks, the better ones chances are from a reproductive perspective also.  Muscles tend to make one think of testosterone/masculinity, and not femininity.  So, maybe she is more driven by reproductive drive than I am.  I think that is possible, just like some women are more dominant over hormonal cycles than others- haven't we all experienced this synchronization of monthly cycles?&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;By the way, kudos to you Runcarla for being in such great health.  Not everyone gets to your age in such great shape.  It's a combination of taking excellent care of yourself and the genetic lottery.
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				<title>Dimity on "Older than what? (Rant!)"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2015 11:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;You know, it hasn't been that long since people were dead by 45. Getting old is actually a great privilege that most people who lived before us never had. So yes, we will look older and then we'll look old, but the alternative is to be dead. So while I want to look like the best me I can, I want to be at peace with who I am and what I look like. That's worth working towards.
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				<title>Summer on "Older than what? (Rant!)"</title>
				<link>https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/older-than-what-rant#post-1439142</link>
				<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2015 10:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Coming back because I didn't have time to elaborate earlier.&#060;br /&#062;There are numerous reasons for a woman to revert to grey (or not), and all are valid. &#038;nbsp;Some may wish to avoid the hassle and/or expense of colouring, others see grey as just another colour, like platinum blonde or jet black. Quite recently,&#038;nbsp;some younger women were even&#038;nbsp;using grey hair as a fashion statement (I'm not sure if that's still the case). &#038;nbsp;Others prefer to keep colouring because it just feels more &#060;i&#062;them&#060;/i&#062; to do so. &#038;nbsp;It's all a matter of choice.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;My own hair is naturally dark ash blonde, verging on mousy, so I have lightened or highlighted it since my teens. &#038;nbsp;Ironically, I always strove for a silvery blonde, because it seemed in keeping with my colouring and the clothes I liked to wear. &#038;nbsp;A few years ago I got curious as to just what colour my hair actually is, and started to grow it out. &#038;nbsp;At first, I liked the mix of blonde and grey, but once all the colour had been cut away, &#038;nbsp;I was a little &#038;nbsp;disappointed. &#038;nbsp;Like Suz, I was hoping for a dramatic white or an elegant silver, but the reality was that it looked a little dull. &#038;nbsp;So, for now, I'm keeping the highlights.&#038;nbsp; The point is, though,&#038;nbsp;the question of looking my age or older barely registered. My only concern is to find the most&#038;nbsp;flattering colour for&#038;nbsp;me, whatever my age.&#060;br /&#062;&#038;nbsp;&#060;br /&#062;,&#060;/p&#062;
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				<title>Echo on "Older than what? (Rant!)"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2015 02:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Echo</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I think I've mentioned this story before, but my aunt was the Mother of the Groom for her son's wedding (obviously). My mum showed me pictures since I had been unable to fly to attend (I was pregnant at the time). I commented that she looked great, as indeed she did. My mum said, &#034;But doesn't she look OLD?&#034; I clarified that I didn't say she looked YOUNG, I said she looked great. The two are not synonymous. It saddened me deeply that my mum apparently didn't believe that a woman could look fantastic without also looking young.&#038;nbsp;&#060;br /&#062;Regardless, Runcarla, I applaud your attitude. It is all about happiness, health and the way you feel. If other people don't like the choice you have made that were best for you, then so be it, but don't let that stop you from making them. Age and beauty are not antonyms.&#060;/p&#062;
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				<title>Jaime on "Older than what? (Rant!)"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2015 02:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I am sure I would look younger if I colored my hair. Yes, especially to people who aren't really paying attention to me, who just sort of glance my way and see grey haired old woman. Without getting into cultural sub-group specifics, there are certain types that are almost definitely going to see me that way. These are the people your mother is talking about I suspect.&#038;nbsp;I don't want to be younger, but I will not deny it takes some getting used to being referred to as old.&#038;nbsp;
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				<title>shedev on "Older than what? (Rant!)"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2015 01:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I began to go grey at 24. Everyone in my family does early. I'm 45, and I'm still not ready. I think it's a very personal thing. Your mom's attitude toward greying feels generational to me. 
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				<title>Lulu on "Older than what? (Rant!)"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2015 01:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Lulu</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Runcarla- Getting older in the US is very difficult , we see all the ads with females (probably younger then one can imagine), and we are suppose to aspire to that???? The good news is that things are actually changing-you see older models, etc.  I understand your frustation with your Mom. Hold your ground and stick to your guns. You seem to be strong woman, concentrate on your health, which seems to be Aone .&#060;br /&#062;
There are ways to go grey, with the help of a hairdresser , to gradually transition so it is not a shock to you, if you desire.
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				<title>Laura (rhubarbgirl) on "Older than what? (Rant!)"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2015 00:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Laura (rhubarbgirl)</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I think the fact that most women dye their hair these days, or start to when they start going gray, has led to the association of gray hair with &#034;really old&#034; people, whoever that is, when the true fact of biology is that most people start going a little gray in their 30s or 40s. It's just that you don't see it 'in the wild' that much anymore, especially with women, so in our heads someone with gray hair must be a great-grandmother with a walker. Just like our collective expectation for hairless legs and private parts, but don't get me started on that...&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Marilyn has a good point too - this is one of those things where everyone seems to have an opinion, well-thought-out or not, and you're pretty much going to be criticized by someone no matter what you choose to do or not do. (Beauty culture, double bind, internalized patriarchy and misogyny, etc., fill in the women's studies class bingo card as you go.)
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				<title>Suz on "Older than what? (Rant!)"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2015 00:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Suz</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Ha! Lisa, that is funny...maybe you should tell her you &#060;b&#062;DO&#060;/b&#062; need money for the jeans, and if she can find you the perfect pair you will be forever in her debt?&#038;nbsp;&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;The thing is....if a person's hair is actually grey (or greying), then she cannot possibly look &#034;older&#034; than her actual years if she refuses to cover it. She will look her &#060;b&#062;actual age&#060;/b&#062;. And the suspicion therefore arises that women who dye their hair are in fact trying to look younger than their actual years.&#038;nbsp;&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Now, I do colour my hair. I like to say I'm not &#060;b&#062;trying&#060;/b&#062; to look younger -- but maybe that's nonsense. I am trying not to look like my natural self. So what does that mean?&#038;nbsp;&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;I do intend to stop colouring, by the way -- but similar to OldChic, I want to wait until the tone that my hair has turned is one that flatters me. At the moment, it's sort of betwixt and between and really no colour -- &#038;nbsp;not blonde, not grey -- just greige. If I could get my mother's gorgeous mop of shiny pure white hair, I'd be okay with that.&#038;nbsp;
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				<title>Anonymous on "Older than what? (Rant!)"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2015 00:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Actually I read this a little differently - having a mother prone to delivering up all sorts of blunt and odd statements about appearance. &#038;nbsp;All I read into that is looking unnecessarily older because of a particular hair choice. &#038;nbsp;And I'm not sure anyone really wants to look unnecessarily older - do they? &#038;nbsp;Or have I not read comments above discussing the political incorrectness of aging . &#038;nbsp;Like it or not, especially in the working world, looking older than you are is not really a great thing - you are perceived as being out of it, or ready to retire and not worthy of being paid attention to. &#038;nbsp;Anyways - perhaps I'm off on the wrong path here  <span aria-hidden="true" class="emoticon emoticon-smile icon-emoticon-smile "></span>  &#038;nbsp;&#060;br /&#062;p.s. my mother' s favourites include - have you lost weight ? (when no, I have not, nor do I need to) &#038;nbsp; or, your hair looks so much better now (as opposed to???) &#038;nbsp;and, the best one yet: &#038;nbsp;do you need money for a new pair of jeans?&#060;/p&#062;
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				<title>Marilyn on "Older than what? (Rant!)"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2015 23:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Ugh!&#038;nbsp; You know, at this point I'm just trying to be my best self on my own terms.&#038;nbsp; When I started getting grays some people &#034;suggested&#034; maybe dealing with them.&#038;nbsp; And now that I use a demi to blend the grays I've had comments about why would I bother doing that.&#038;nbsp; You really can't win.&#038;nbsp; &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Regarding men and short hair.....My 23 year old son also dislikes short hair on women so I'm not sure it's just an older men thing.&#038;nbsp; He's had less than favourable comments when actresses like Jennifer Lawrence and Michelle Williams cut their hair.&#038;nbsp; I think they look super cute.
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				<title>Carla on "Older than what? (Rant!)"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2015 22:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Gaylene,  I think you have touched on the (tender) spot.  I may be more reconciled to getting older than my mother, and as such the indicators of age are not so frightening.  25+ years of work in disability and health 'management' has maybe desensitized me to how scary dealing with infirmity can be, and I guess getting older = diminished quality of life to lots of folks.  I don't see it that way, since I have daily examples of living gracefully regardless of abilities.  Sometimes even young folks have tough rows to hoe!&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Suz, another good point!  My mother has always had thin hair and started colouring in her 30's.  Maybe she is projecting something?  &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Weird biological story.  I once read that the reason blonde hair was thought so attractive (to men) was because the contrast was similar to having white hair. White hair signified age/long life-an indicator of biological fitness when life spans weren't very long. So, the contrast of light hair (age) with a youthful body (reproductive fitness) became the desirable choice if you wanted to make sure your genes got around.  This is all subconscious, of course!
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				<title>chouette22 on "Older than what? (Rant!)"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2015 22:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I just watched &#060;a rel=&#034;nofollow&#034; href=&#034;http://joannagoddard.blogspot.com/2015/02/on-aging.html&#034;&#062;this video excerpt on aging by Frances McDormand&#060;/a&#062;&#038;nbsp;yesterday.&#060;br /&#062;You might find it interesting.
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				<title>Suz on "Older than what? (Rant!)"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2015 21:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;&#034;Not for sissies&#034; sounds like a real understatement to me.&#038;nbsp;I think old age — true old age, where infirmities accumulate— must be the hardest passage in any life (even if we are lucky to experience it).&#038;nbsp;&#038;nbsp;&#038;nbsp;And &#060;b&#062;nobody gives old people any credit.&#038;nbsp;&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;&#060;/b&#062;Off topic, but has anyone read &#060;i&#062;Being Mortal?&#060;/i&#062; That is an amazing book.&#038;nbsp;&#060;br /&#062;&#060;b&#062;&#060;br /&#062;Old people are heroes. &#060;/b&#062;And middle aged people advancing toward old age are another kind of hero. Heroes in training.&#038;nbsp;&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;kkards may have a point, Carla. Your mother may be trying to protect you. My hair is not an issue but my mother has been known to let similar remarks fall from her lips about weight (back when I was heavier).&#038;nbsp;
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				<title>Gaylene on "Older than what? (Rant!)"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2015 21:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I agree with Suz that society hasn't caught up to the realization that aging isn't as easy to define these days, especially when it comes to women. I also think that, despite all our brave talk, my own generation of baby boomers is finding it much more difficult to move into the final stages of our lives than did our parents and grandparents. Maybe the miracles of modern medicine, exercise, diet, and cosmetic intervention have seduced us into thinking that &#034;old age&#034; can eliminated, or, at least beaten back, as long as our spirit stays &#034;young&#034; and &#034;vibrant&#034;? Defying conventions and expectations has become so ingrained in my generation, I often think I'm headed for a rather rude wake-up call when I no longer hear &#034;you don't look XX&#034;--because, let's face it, eventually I WILL look, and most likely feel, old if I'm lucky. &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;I know spending time in an assisted living facility, and later in a continuing care centre, with my mother in the last decade has changed a lot of my opinions about old age. Hiding or disguising one's age comes with a mighty big cost--and I'm not talking about dollars. The seniors that I encountered who seemed happiest were the ones who had made peace with their age instead of trying to hold on to a previous version of themselves. The phrase &#034;age appropriate&#034; didn't make them recoil in horror. Instead they met the challenges of aging (and there were plenty!) with courage and dignity--to be who they were at this point in their lives. As one elderly gentleman told me &#034;old age isn't for sissies!&#034;; I suspect he was right.
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				<title>kkards on "Older than what? (Rant!)"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2015 21:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>kkards</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Carla, I want to second the ideas put forth by suz and AM regarding your moms reaction, but I want to take it a step farther.  Since you and I are about the same age, I'm assuming your mom is of the same generation as my mom.  My guess is this is much much deeper than looks, fashion and styles, and it at its core about what it was like as a women &#034;back in the day&#034;,  and what it's like to be an old women today.  My mom always tries to protect my and my sisters from what she went through, and I'm guessing your mom is the same.
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				<title>Anonymous on "Older than what? (Rant!)"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2015 21:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I am 58 and my mantra is &#034;The only person I need to impress is myself!&#034; I cut my hair short when I was 40. Not just because it was easier, but I like short hair. Always have. The letting my hair go gray I am not sure about. I like my hair the dark sandy blonde I color it. I feel good and I look good in my mind and I do not care what others think.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;My best friend of over 40 years keeps her hair long because her husband likes it that way. Before she was married at 35 she always wore her hair short and it looked great. She said that if it were up to her she would cut it short. Huh?! It is up to you, but she does everything her husband says. Luckily he is not married to me!
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				<title>gradfashionista on "Older than what? (Rant!)"</title>
				<link>https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/older-than-what-rant#post-1438853</link>
				<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2015 21:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>gradfashionista</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;And Runcarla, love, love, love the comment about the 'trophy wife' and your DH being oblivious to your angst toward your looks. 30 years! How wonderful.
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				<title>gradfashionista on "Older than what? (Rant!)"</title>
				<link>https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/older-than-what-rant#post-1438850</link>
				<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2015 21:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>gradfashionista</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I don't know. My father likes long hair, but did not grow up in a culture where women spent time styling their hair.&#038;nbsp;I think for some men, being attracted to long hair is kind of a reflex attraction to &#034;femininity&#034;, like being attracted to a particular&#038;nbsp;waist-hip ratio. Obviously, and thankfully, this is not the case with many.&#060;br /&#062;But I agree with you about styling: I never blow dry my hair because frankly, I can't afford the time commitment on such a frequent basis.&#038;nbsp;Sure, my look suffers because of it, but I'm so used to not having stylish hair that it doesn't bother me too much.&#038;nbsp;SO loves the hair&#038;nbsp;in its longer state, but it wouldn't do in a corporate, professional setting.
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				<title>old chic on "Older than what? (Rant!)"</title>
				<link>https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/older-than-what-rant#post-1438840</link>
				<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2015 20:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Gradfahionista, interesting observation about men's attitudes to short hair. That may be true, particularly with older men. My feminist side says that's just one more way to keep women down, making them feel inadequate unless they spend a half-hour styling their long hair every day.
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				<title>Carla on "Older than what? (Rant!)"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2015 20:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Carla</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Wise women!&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;What a thought provoking quote, Crutcher.  &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Thanks, Firecracker.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Suz, I think you are on to something.  Mom is an artist and was a beauty, and claims the loss of her looks is the hardest thing for her to bear.  In snowboarding circles, avid 'older' boarders are called 'Grays-on-Trays&#034;!&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Good point, AM.  Mom was more 'Mad Men' then 60's rebel.  Throw in American Midwest Catholic upbringing.  Not many options or role models for maturing in style.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Trailblazing of a sort, eh, Textstyle?&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;LOL!  Grandfashionista, DH (married 30+ years) is a 'silver fox' and calls me his 'trophy wife'  a double-entendre referencing my (not so secret) competitive sporting activities.  He is kind of oblivious to a lot of the angst over looks. &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Purposeful and part of a total package makes sense, Chic. I'm just personally liking the mixed metals look of my natural 'greying' red hair more than the dyed colour.
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				<title>old chic on "Older than what? (Rant!)"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2015 20:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>old chic</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I think the impression grey hair creates is mostly in the eye of the beholder. It's shaped by the beholder's aesthetics and attitudes about aging. Of course, we also see our own hair and decide whether or not to color it, so it's probably safe to assume that the individual's choice reflects her own aesthetics and/or attitude. For myself, I favor graphic lines and dramatic color. So -- despite the fact that &#034;going grey&#034; would probably soften the appearance of my features, de-emphasize the lines in my face, and make me look a little bit younger from the head up -- I am conspiring with my colorist to stay &#034;age-inappropriate&#034; deepest black/brown until I can go brightest white. 
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				<title>gradfashionista on "Older than what? (Rant!)"</title>
				<link>https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/older-than-what-rant#post-1438823</link>
				<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2015 20:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>gradfashionista</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I had the same reaction as both you and Suz, but I'm wondering if she thinks it'll make you appear less desirable to your partner/potential partners? Aside from how your looking &#034;older&#034; reflects on her, perhaps she's worried about possible ramifications on your romantic life? Ugh, I don't know. The comments I've heard from some of the men folk in my life are that short hair &#034;makes women look older/less attractive,&#034; not the gray. &#038;nbsp;
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				<title>Summer on "Older than what? (Rant!)"</title>
				<link>https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/older-than-what-rant#post-1438819</link>
				<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2015 20:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Summer</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I completely understand your need to rant. &#038;nbsp;
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				<title>rachylou on "Older than what? (Rant!)"</title>
				<link>https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/older-than-what-rant#post-1438815</link>
				<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2015 20:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>rachylou</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I insulted my boss/friend who was 33 at the time, because I thought he was 55. He was just that stiff.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;But don't worry. He gave as good as he got. When I showed up for the interview, he asked if I was there for the internship.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Anyways, moral of story: Age (decreptitude) = Uptightness
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				<title>Anonymous on "Older than what? (Rant!)"</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2015 20:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;My kids think I'm older than dirt, lol. At age 53, I certainly don't want to look 10 years older, so I fight it as best I can without resorting to plastic surgery - something I'd never consider unless in the case of disfigurement. That said, many women are deciding to go gray, and there are plenty of style options these days. There's even hair color to enhance your gray instead of cover it up.
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				<title>texstyle on "Older than what? (Rant!)"</title>
				<link>https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/older-than-what-rant#post-1438812</link>
				<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2015 20:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>texstyle</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I think we're seeing this changing but it is ingrained in so many that you are expected to &#034;hide&#034; your age behind colored hair, plastic surgery, etc. Even at the cost of some pretty terrible results. &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;I feel that more and more adults are opting to go more natural, both with their beauty routines and with the foods they eat, the paint they use on their walls, the fabric they choose for their rugs, etc. I used to feel like the weird &#034;health nut&#034; because I shopped at Whole Foods and wanted organic foods and beauty products. Now it's mainstream.&#060;/p&#062;
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