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			<title>YouLookFab Forum &#187; Topic: New Shooties - frumpy or passable?</title>
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				<title>Jenava on "New Shooties - frumpy or passable?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 18:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Jenava</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;UF - yes, often my outfit revolves around my feet and the weather!  (-:
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				<title>unfrumped on "New Shooties - frumpy or passable?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 17:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>unfrumped</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I think you have to know your feet and your needs and it sounds like you have done that. I tend to have what seems like too many shoes because on a lot of days, I need 14-hr +  serious no-nonsense shoes and it just takes Clarks loafer/shootie style or laceup or something to do that, but I have a range for different pants--almost just as you say with these. In other words, I aim for the least-frumpy version of frumpy so I have several types and heel heights. Elsewise I would just have to wear track shoes or hiking shoe. &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Strategy also is, with my fussy feet, if I wear shoes most of the time that don't squish my toes or make bunion worse or whatever, I find I can continue to wear other more fashion-forward shoes from time to time, such as certain flats for office desk work days, heels (somewhat) for special occasions, more pointy-toe if it works with a specific outfit,  and the like. &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Walk a mile in another lady's feet before you jump to criticizing her footwear fashions! There may be  a strategy at work and not just fashion-ignorance.
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				<title>Jenava on "New Shooties - frumpy or passable?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 17:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Jenava</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Jem, I have them for my running shoes.  I did talk to my podiatrist about dress orthodics, but I would be very limited in the shoes I could wear with them (I think mine are like super wide or something?  which is weird cause I have narrow feet, but I pronate so I think that's the reason?).&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Scarlet, I'll check them out.  There are a couple stores that offer Birkis but I'm not, ahem, a frequent customer...maybe I should be!...they are like the walking shoe company and such...I don't think we have a birki store?  but I'll look.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;I'm fine with them for just flats...they'd be for my flat casual booties.
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				<title>Jem on "New Shooties - frumpy or passable?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 16:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Jem</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Have you thought about getting orthotics?  I have them and never worry about a shoe having support.  They have lots of different kinds you can get so they fit in different kind of shoes.  They are expensive, but if you have insurance that will cover them, they are great!
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				<title>Anonymous on "New Shooties - frumpy or passable?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 16:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;These are great for comfort shoes, given the need.
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				<title>Scarlet on "New Shooties - frumpy or passable?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 16:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Scarlet</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Hopefully this link works, but it's just a search on amazon. I have the blue ones (&#034;Birkenstock Blue Footbed Heeled Arch Support&#034;) and they are sized down from my normal shoes size (but equivalent to my normal Birki size). The blue ones wouldn't be good in a heeled shoe though due to their rigidity, so for a bit of a heel I would get a longer style. Surely Seattle must have a Birki store. The best thing would be to try them out before buying to find the best style and size.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;&#060;a href=&#034;http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&#038;#038;field-keywords=birkenstock+insoles&#038;#038;sprefix=birkenstock+in%2Caps%2C399&#034; rel=&#034;nofollow&#034;&#062;http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb.....Caps%2C399&#060;/a&#062;
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				<title>Jenava on "New Shooties - frumpy or passable?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 16:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Jenava</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I didn't know that!  I will try to seek them out.  The ones I have are superfeet and they are OK, but def. not the same as the Naot's or Birks.
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				<title>Scarlet on "New Shooties - frumpy or passable?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 16:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Scarlet</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Jenava, Birkenstock actually sells insoles that have arch support just like their sandals, in case that might work for you. But yeah, you are never going to get that enveloped foot feeling from an insole that you get from a fitted shoe.
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				<title>Jenava on "New Shooties - frumpy or passable?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 16:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Jenava</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Scarlet - I actually already have a pair of flat booties that I wear an insole in but they just aren't supportive enough on days when my feet are giving me trouble - it's the arch support that I need.  Heel height isn't too much of a problem.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;RH - thanks for your feedback!  I actually would never wear these with something that covered the shoe because I have a poison eye for round-toed shoes with wide hems.  For me, the stubby round toe peaking out just looks even more frumpy.  I prefer when you can see the whole shoe if the toe is very round.
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				<title>Rabbit Heart on "New Shooties - frumpy or passable?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 11:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Rabbit Heart</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Not a big fan of them. To be honest, I don't like them at all. But I totally understand your circumstances and why you want to wear them, so I don't want to be a naysayer. I only think they'd look way better with flared trousers.
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				<title>Scarlet on "New Shooties - frumpy or passable?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 10:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Scarlet</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I have some shoes in this category: A- for chic but A for comfort. I like these ones for the purpose you describe and predict you would be grateful to have them for those days when you need something like this. If you are really unhappy style-wise though, I would get some flat or low heeled biker boots or cowboy boots and pop a great insole into them. If you want a bit more of a heel and a delicate shape like these ones have, I think you need this shoe. That is the choice as I see it.&#060;br /&#062;
Definitely would not call these frumpy though.
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				<title>Deborah on "New Shooties - frumpy or passable?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 10:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Jenava, these are a little different for you but given your reasoning for choosing these, I think they are fine.  They are certainly not unattractive, must not as &#034;sharp&#034; as your usual style.  I do think they are more than passable and there are times where practicality must be considered.  You have fab style and no doubt will make this work beautifully.
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				<title>Diana on "New Shooties - frumpy or passable?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 05:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Diana</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;By the way, Jenava, I wore my grey patent Naot boots today and thought of you.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;&#060;a href=&#034;http://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/wiw-for-the-first-snow-of-the-season&#034; rel=&#034;nofollow&#034;&#062;http://youlookfab.com/welookfa.....the-season&#060;/a&#062;&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;They are the Allure style.  A bit of a heel but it's very stable and there is a platform in front.  They look MUCH better on the foot than they do in stock photos.
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				<title>Jenava on "New Shooties - frumpy or passable?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 00:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Jenava</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Plus, $75 for a $200 pair of shoes isn't too shabby...
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				<title>Aida on "New Shooties - frumpy or passable?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 00:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Aida</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Jenava that sounds like a good choice! Happy feet are happy  <span aria-hidden="true" class="emoticon emoticon-smile icon-emoticon-smile "></span> 
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				<title>Dale on "New Shooties - frumpy or passable?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 00:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I'm with Suz, and the ruche detail makes them more than passable.  and you know they'll feel soooo good.
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				<title>Mo on "New Shooties - frumpy or passable?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 00:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I think that they're a great choice between comfort and style.  I 'get it'.  When you can't run it sucks.  I wore my Birks for way too long last year after rolling my ankle.  Now I can barely stand them.  But I also now look for shoes under 3&#034; and with padding and all the other things that never occurred to me beyond 'oh those are soooo cute!'  <span aria-hidden="true" class="emoticon emoticon-wink icon-emoticon-wink "></span> 
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				<title>Jenava on "New Shooties - frumpy or passable?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 00:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Jenava</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Aida, yes, that is the problem.  I went back and looked through the acceptable options and didn't see anything else that appealed to me that had this good of a quality to price ratio...so I think I'll keep 'em.  Hubby doesn't like them very much, but he understands about the foot thing, and they're better than wearing Keens or hiking boots...or Birkenstock shoes!
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				<title>annagybe on "New Shooties - frumpy or passable?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 00:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>annagybe</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Given your requirements I'd say keep. Gotta keep running.
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				<title>Aida on "New Shooties - frumpy or passable?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 00:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Aida</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Hmm I think they're OK but they don't quite jive with either your urban side nor your romantic side to me. But for a &#034;comfort shoe&#034; they look quite good, you know? I'm a bit torn.
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				<title>Carole  on "New Shooties - frumpy or passable?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 21:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;For the purposes you describe, these seem great! Personally, comfort has to come first!
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				<title>Jenava on "New Shooties - frumpy or passable?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 18:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Anna, neither am I!  That's why I posted them.  I mean, for the record, the only other pair of Naot's I own are a pair of sneakers that I wore for touring Paris and Berlin, which I now wear to beer festivals and for riding my bike...&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;I don't wear Fidji's (my mom's favorite, though!) or Joseph Sibels...OTOH, I have started running again (only 2 miles, intervals training, and paying close attention to foot pain) and need a shoe that is TRULY supportive or my feet will get bad again.  It's taken me a year to recover enough to be able to run again, so I am NOT willing to let that happen...a lot of that has to do with resting enough (I'm a type A person who likes to go gung-ho but I've learned my lesson).  But also having supportive shoes that I can wear on off days is important.  Right now, my old Naot's (which are very casual not to mention beat up) and my Birk's are the only shoes I have that fit that bill.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;I just wish Naot would make something a LITTLE bit more stylish.  Like, even a more squared off toe would be great... )-:&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;ETA - oh, and, these were on sale plus I used a Nordy note, so they were like $75 which is a steal for Naots.
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				<title>annagybe on "New Shooties - frumpy or passable?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 18:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>annagybe</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Didn't vote because I'm not 100% sold on these.
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				<title>Jenava on "New Shooties - frumpy or passable?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 18:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Jenava</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Hmm, we have one &#034;Nay&#034; vote.  I wonder who that is and what they think?  Nay voter - please come forward!
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				<title>N-Marie on "New Shooties - frumpy or passable?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 17:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;They look more than fine to me.  But I don't mind an upturned toe- I actually like it a bit better than the long and pointy look (more comfy too!)
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				<title>Jenava on "New Shooties - frumpy or passable?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 17:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;runnerRae, that was my thought process as well - the non-shine version of these, which they have on Zappos, is not something I would wear...they have a video of it.  I think OFF the foot they look OK, but ON the foot this super round toe - I just have a poison eye for it.  But I think if I stick to pants that show the entire shoe they'll be OK.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;They are very comfy, but I wore them with very short socks to walk to dinner yesterday and they rubbed on the back of my foot!  )-:  On the one foot where I wear my PF sleeve, which comes up higher on my ankle, there was no rubbing, so I think I just need to wear them with socks that come up past the edge of the shoe, at least till they break in.
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				<title>Parsley on "New Shooties - frumpy or passable?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 15:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I like them, and you can't beat the comfort of Naots. That counts for a lot!
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				<title>Angie on "New Shooties - frumpy or passable?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 15:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Angie</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Totally fab and more than passable  <span aria-hidden="true" class="emoticon emoticon-smile icon-emoticon-smile "></span> 
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				<title>Transcona Shannon on "New Shooties - frumpy or passable?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 14:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Transcona Shannon</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I think these look fine for the purpose you intend - I have a pair of Naot shoes and a pair of Naot boots and they are among my most comfortable and well made footwear.
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				<title>Diana on "New Shooties - frumpy or passable?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 14:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Diana</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I like them!  I am a big fan of Naots in any case.  So comfy and I actually like their funky chunky vibe.  These are actually more streamlined than most, better for your style I think.  I have some very similar looking burgundy booties that are quite versatile.
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