https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/nas-eileen-fisher-kr-calling-on-carter-and-peri Style Advice for Fashion Lovers en-US Sun, 19 Apr 2026 12:31:44 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/search.php https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/nas-eileen-fisher-kr-calling-on-carter-and-peri/page/2#post-1545785 Wed, 26 Aug 2015 02:55:08 +0000 Anonymous 1545785@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Una - I agree with you - just had never had the words for it . It was like getting hit over the head with a 2x 4 when you made that comment . The EF comment I'm referring to - I'm not getting into it here on the forum because the brand has so many lovers here. I have 5 pieces myself - likely my last though, as I'm totally over/off it. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/nas-eileen-fisher-kr-calling-on-carter-and-peri/page/2#post-1545721 Wed, 26 Aug 2015 01:47:11 +0000 catgirl 1545721@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Lisa, a small correction - I said <i>it is the frumpiest feeling on earth to me</i>!&nbsp; I know&nbsp;that's not true of others here, either in how they look or feel... Just wanted to clarify because I think it has a lot to do with my body type and related issues.</p> <p>Care to share the link here?&nbsp; I'm the cat dying of curiosity!</p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/nas-eileen-fisher-kr-calling-on-carter-and-peri/page/2#post-1545567 Tue, 25 Aug 2015 21:41:58 +0000 Anonymous 1545567@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>sorry - got sidetracked w work &nbsp;here it comes ! </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/nas-eileen-fisher-kr-calling-on-carter-and-peri/page/2#post-1545503 Tue, 25 Aug 2015 20:16:47 +0000 Suz 1545503@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Will be listening avidly, Lisa!!&nbsp; </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/nas-eileen-fisher-kr-calling-on-carter-and-peri/page/2#post-1545487 Tue, 25 Aug 2015 19:27:54 +0000 Anonymous 1545487@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Una said something really interesting earlier here about how fitted -to-the-thigh but loose from the knee down being the frumpiest thing on earth. I agree! &nbsp;And this is why I have never understood the appeal of a straight cut jean. Anyways, that's neither here nor there. &nbsp;But it's reminding me what is wrong with these EF pants - and the ones I have in my closet that I'm now trying to ignore . &nbsp;I also read something on a fashion blog the other by someone whose opinion I find viable about certain &nbsp;EF designs. I'm PM'ing you. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/nas-eileen-fisher-kr-calling-on-carter-and-peri/page/2#post-1545003 Tue, 25 Aug 2015 01:40:09 +0000 cheryle (Dianthus) 1545003@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Suz, I think you made the right decision. &nbsp;The fabric composition doesn't appear to be any different than most knit pants and if you don't love them, they aren't worth keeping. &nbsp;</p> <p>I know a few of the canadians here boycott Nygard because of his ethics and business practices, but I was at the store on the weekend and tried on a few of their "slims". &nbsp;This pair is a textured fabric on the front that is matte and a very fine faux snakeskin. &nbsp;The high waistband is comfortable and doesn't show through.</p> <p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.nygard.com/en-ca/products/Nygard_Slims_NYG%C3%85RD_SLIMS_3-5_Snake_Legging/4_3A42R166_001_1X_14#id0Fit'Regular'Col'001'Size'XS"><a href="http://www.nygard.com/en-ca/products/Nygard_Slims_NYG%C3%85RD_SLIMS_3-5_Snake_Legging/4_3A42R166_001" rel="nofollow">http://www.nygard.com/en-ca/pr.....42R166_001</a>...</a>'</p> <p>I also tried this pair of jeggings which could work for your at home work clothes. &nbsp;I really liked them on and found them more flattering with the sheen which is counter intuitive.</p> <p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.nygard.com/en-ca/products/Nygard_Slims_NYG%C3%85RD_SLIMS_2-5_Chex_Jegging/4_2E1Y7166_001_M_14"><a href="http://www.nygard.com/en-ca/products/Nygard_Slims_NYG%C3%85RD_SLIMS_2-5_Chex_Jegging/4_2E1Y7166_001_" rel="nofollow">http://www.nygard.com/en-ca/pr.....Y7166_001_</a>...</a></p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/nas-eileen-fisher-kr-calling-on-carter-and-peri/page/2#post-1544727 Mon, 24 Aug 2015 18:01:20 +0000 Sheila 1544727@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>No.. the offices are part of a factory and the issue has become not really one of modesty but somehow safety and exposed skin. It is not quite the same as a banking or tech environment. </p> <p>I think the shorts are blatant hairy legs in a factory environment. It is also somehow too casual in a off way. This issue is more calls to support the floor- they would probably be OK if they were "office only" but really no one is "office only". </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/nas-eileen-fisher-kr-calling-on-carter-and-peri/page/2#post-1544706 Mon, 24 Aug 2015 16:55:52 +0000 catgirl 1544706@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Sheila, that is a perfect example of mindless application of a rule.&nbsp; Are guys in your office really saying that wearing shorts is the equivalent of a dress or skirt?&nbsp; I can see some guidelines on decent lengths, but what the heck?! </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/nas-eileen-fisher-kr-calling-on-carter-and-peri/page/2#post-1544652 Mon, 24 Aug 2015 15:04:49 +0000 Suz 1544652@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Check out Angie's blog post today, too -- it might be helpful on the issue of short-waistedness. It sounds like a draconian and plainly stupid dress code -- casual shorts are not a dressy dress!! Wowza. Again, do start a thread and we will chip ideas in to help out! </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/nas-eileen-fisher-kr-calling-on-carter-and-peri/page/2#post-1544618 Mon, 24 Aug 2015 13:46:34 +0000 Sheila 1544618@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>What has happened is that a couple of our male co-op students wore shorts to work. This inspired a management meeting where it was decided that a dress requirement needed to be set. The argument came up that if shorts were unacceptable then any leg bearing ( I do wear hose ) would not be allowed. I have to tell you that I do not wear mini skirts, I am significantly less distracting than another lady with a recent breast job that is in full display daily... however it is happening- I have no say in this. </p> <p>I work in an office/ lab but I am often called to the factory floor. I&nbsp;sometimes wear a white lab coat around certain areas. </p> <p>I just find dresses easy.. I do have to put an outfit together or think about anything. Put on a bra and hose, Zip up a dress, throw on necklace or earrings and makeup- DONE. No thought process required. I am stumped with the silhouettes of trousers.. I am short waisted... dresses without waist belt make me look balance- normal. </p> <p>So that is why I find this thread so interesting now... front zips vs side zips? &nbsp;straight leg vs boot cut or flares ?&nbsp;ponte vs jersey ?</p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/nas-eileen-fisher-kr-calling-on-carter-and-peri/page/2#post-1544604 Mon, 24 Aug 2015 13:25:21 +0000 Suz 1544604@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p><b>Sheila, </b>you are kidding me. <b>NO DRESSES AT WORK????&nbsp;</b></p> <p>This deserves a thread of its own. Please start one so we can brainstorm and help you with this ridiculous requirement.&nbsp;</p> <p>I have ordered the GAP side zip Sloans to try and also a navy pair with a front zip. Stay tuned..... </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/nas-eileen-fisher-kr-calling-on-carter-and-peri/page/2#post-1544592 Mon, 24 Aug 2015 13:10:59 +0000 Sheila 1544592@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>I must say I LOVE the way you styled the Vince dress with the scarf... LOVE LOVE LOVE the scarf !&nbsp; </p> <p>On the pants... no. I think that they are just not here or there. The ankle is off for a tight and the knees look a bit baggy. EF can be pricey and I think you can do more for the money elsewhere.</p> <p>I am following this with great interest as my workplace is changing their dress policy to NO DRESSES. Yes that is sadly true. And for someone who has a closet of sheaths I have to step up. I am worried... really worried about how to still be myself&nbsp;and wear trousers on a daily basis. And what trousers ? EEk. I can't see tights every day and I don't have any jeans- don't like them.</p> <p>Agree completely on the stretch pants idea. I remember my mother and her friends wearing colored stretch polyester pants and thinking... please Please Please let that not be me !!!.... and of course... now ... somedays it is !&nbsp; Is it really any different ?&nbsp; Are my children looking at me and thinking the same ? </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/nas-eileen-fisher-kr-calling-on-carter-and-peri/page/2#post-1544551 Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:01:25 +0000 unfrumped 1544551@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>I don't have specific brand advice, but the right kind if side-zip is a HEWI because it can't be beat for wearing untucked knit tops.<br /> Also whatever construction allows flat elastic waist without actual gathers- the gathers are so the Mom look. Plus " that look" to me is that the wearer did not get the right fit, length, taper for body type.<br /> And I agree with a thicker fabrics. I tried some EF pants last year in a fine will knit and I liked them but it was just too thin.<br /> So actually I think what makes it not- Mom is not just " trend" or even modern but being very picky about all aspects of fit and proportion, and then combining the right modern top and shoes( flats or low heel for sure, but not the JJill low straight hemmed top , ballet flat combo. ) That's why leave no retail stone... Works because there are so many variations and yet it comes down to, not the hanger look but the body fit. This type of pant IS a substrate to a great degree. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/nas-eileen-fisher-kr-calling-on-carter-and-peri/page/2#post-1544500 Mon, 24 Aug 2015 04:51:35 +0000 catgirl 1544500@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>I just saw these in Garnet Hill.</p> <p><a href="http://www.garnethill.com/ponte-knit-pants/womens-fashion/pants/363222?&amp;defattribvalue=main" rel="nofollow">http://www.garnethill.com/pont.....value=main</a></p> <p>Thinking about this dilemma more, I think I tend to look for "faux structure" in these kinds of pants. So not too thin or loose. I especially hate when pants fit like leggings on the thighs but pants from the knees down - too me that is the frumpiest feeling on earth. Remember, I'm on team calf-sucking for a reason! </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/nas-eileen-fisher-kr-calling-on-carter-and-peri/page/2#post-1544102 Sun, 23 Aug 2015 13:59:41 +0000 jackiec 1544102@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Ah Suz I see you've come to your conclusion. I appreciate your analysis, since you articulate so well how I feel as well. Granted, I gave those navy leggings a good go last year, but it was work. I find myself defaulting to structure on the bottom and wear a very similar formula to you. I have a very old pair of black jeggings with zip and fly that seem to be my "go-to" for certain looks. They have back pockets and feel most certainly like a pant. I have my eyes open for something similar in charcoal. I really wish I could have tried the Kuts that were recommended here during NAS, but I neither saw them in store when I was briefly in the Newport Beach store, nor was I willing to gamble on ordering the wrong size online. I'll be following along as you search. We wear similar colours and I am hoping to find something not black that will fit the bill. Onwards, indeed </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/nas-eileen-fisher-kr-calling-on-carter-and-peri/page/2#post-1544009 Sun, 23 Aug 2015 10:31:25 +0000 Suz 1544009@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Okay. Thank you for all your comments and suggestions!&nbsp;</p> <p>I am going to send these babies back. At the price point, even the sale price point, I can probably find two better options. And if I acquire a closet of EF layers, I can buy these again next year.&nbsp;</p> <p><b>ONWARDS!!&nbsp;</b></p> <p>But I do hope I find a charcoal ponte or side zip eventually. Black is great....but....</p> <p>Some specific comments:&nbsp;</p> <p><b>Deborah</b>, that is really interesting about the composition of your fab leggings, and helpful to me to hear. I think I might have found something that will work on me, but more soon.&nbsp;</p> <p><b>Una</b>, I had no idea you felt the same about soft leggings! Yet you wear leggings so well! Now maybe I know why -- yours are more substantial.&nbsp;</p> <p><b>Beth Ann</b>, great idea to try a side zip -- and it is so cool that you and Shevia and I might be on the same wavelength re silhouettes!&nbsp;</p> <p><b>Sharan</b>, thank you! Items collected and I'll investigate further today!&nbsp;</p> <p><b>Shevia</b>, high five!! (And<b> THANK YOU</b>, but more on this in a post today or tomorrow!)&nbsp;</p> <p><b>Diana</b>, I <b>LOVE </b>CoH jeans so you might be onto something with your suggestion. I'm going to look into those.&nbsp;</p> <p><b>Smittie,</b> yes, having muscular legs is a plus and a minus. It does make the wearing of leggings more challenging, although it doesn't seem to prevent me from wearing snug jeans and I don't feel self-conscious in those at all. I do agree that the sweater might be too short -- yet it feels fine with skinnies. Weird.&nbsp;</p> <p><b>Caro</b>, that is really interesting about the harems. I don't think they'd work for me due to the need to tuck into boots -- somehow the look isn't quite right, in my mind, plus the fullness on the bottom will make it harder for me to layer over on top, I suspect. But I hear what you are saying and feel supported in my confusion over how to make leggings work!</p> </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/nas-eileen-fisher-kr-calling-on-carter-and-peri/page/2#post-1543994 Sun, 23 Aug 2015 08:39:08 +0000 Deborah 1543994@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Suz, they look good but if you don't feel good in them, send them back. I am probably repeating others comments, but as you know leggings are a winter staple for me. &nbsp;I have a couple of pairs and the are all a firm ponte. &nbsp;They are substantial and while there is no question they are leggings, I almost consider them pants... I always wear something long over them (I don't wear legging like pants if you know what I mean). &nbsp;The are firm and thick so they provide good coverage. &nbsp;Some ponte leggings are so thin and tight they just look like you are wearing thick tights. &nbsp;Mine are actually from Target and so far they are the best I have found. &nbsp;Metalicus do excellent ponte too but I haven't ventured there yet. &nbsp;I can't recommend an alternative but I hear you and think these need to go back. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/nas-eileen-fisher-kr-calling-on-carter-and-peri/page/2#post-1543949 Sun, 23 Aug 2015 04:36:49 +0000 catgirl 1543949@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>And can I again recommend the Spanx faux leather leggings? Or did you find something that fit this hole? </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/nas-eileen-fisher-kr-calling-on-carter-and-peri/page/2#post-1543945 Sun, 23 Aug 2015 04:33:05 +0000 catgirl 1543945@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>I totally understand where you are coming from, Suz. I feel completely frumpy in this kind of stretchy pant, which skims but doesn't hug and tapers then gets a little wider at the ankle. I don't SEE frump on you but I feel it MYSELF. I have this problem with EF generally although I love her clothes on others here. The pants feel like gear to me and not like I'm really dressed. I think this will bother you over time. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/nas-eileen-fisher-kr-calling-on-carter-and-peri/page/2#post-1543933 Sun, 23 Aug 2015 03:40:18 +0000 Beth Ann 1543933@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Sounds like a style shift is in the air --- I'm having much of the same feelings.&nbsp; As for leggings, I am looking instead for a lightweight skinny trouser --- perhaps with a Hollywood waist or a side zip.</p> <p>Needless to say, I haven't found them yet!&nbsp; I love the way you've styled them here, but I wouldn't keep the EF pants if they are too big in the waist.&nbsp; Leggings that slide are so annoying! </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/nas-eileen-fisher-kr-calling-on-carter-and-peri/page/2#post-1543920 Sun, 23 Aug 2015 02:55:24 +0000 Firecracker (Sharan) 1543920@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Here are a couple of side-zip pants, one by J Crew Factory and one by Vince Camuto. I think it's worth holding out for a pair that works in all the ways you want them to. <br />On the fly-front bulk issue, I have one or two close-fitting short dresses or tunics that I won't wear with pants for that reason. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/nas-eileen-fisher-kr-calling-on-carter-and-peri/page/2#post-1543876 Sun, 23 Aug 2015 00:46:09 +0000 Jaime 1543876@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>This is a very interesting discussion. My first reaction, pre-comments reading, was that you should return them for something perfect given the price point and the less than ideal fit. But I absolutely agree in principle to Gaylene's point that there can be a subtle but crucial difference between two apparently similar essentials that make the extra cost of the better option well worth it. But you, Suz, don't have a closet of EF. (By the way, I have been wearing longer tunics/short dresses with short leggings and skinny long shorts all summer as a change of pace that I am really enjoying.) </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/nas-eileen-fisher-kr-calling-on-carter-and-peri#post-1543857 Sun, 23 Aug 2015 00:01:34 +0000 Anonymous 1543857@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>I think the Vince dress looks good with these pants. I like the color of them. Might also look good with basic black leggings (?)</p> <p>I think your grey pants would look good tucked into a boot with a really massively oversized sweater *that cuts across the hamstring*. I'm thinking the sweater you're wearing is too short for these pants (which read as leggings to me). </p> <p>Also, it would be interesting to see the dress with a straight leg (or tapered) pleated pant.</p> <p>My legs look exactly like yours from the side (I.e: Muscular) and I've noticed that clingy things like leggings and skinny jeans that have too much elastic/spandex make me feel a bit exposed. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/nas-eileen-fisher-kr-calling-on-carter-and-peri#post-1543832 Sat, 22 Aug 2015 23:04:14 +0000 Caro in Oz 1543832@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>I agree with Denise. I wish there was a ponti-type pant for me as they are so practical &amp; comfortable but I never feel right when I wear them. My harems do the same job (for me) &amp; feel so much better on my body.&nbsp;</p> <p>Gaylene - not sure if it's true in your part of the world but "slim fit" in Australia refers to the hip &amp; thigh area rather than the bottom part of the pant/jean. They are usually great for the top &amp; middle heavy types like me :)</p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/nas-eileen-fisher-kr-calling-on-carter-and-peri#post-1543829 Sat, 22 Aug 2015 22:55:53 +0000 Diana 1543829@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>First off, they look great. However, I know what you mean about them feeling too soft. I have the same problem with most knit pants. To me they feel ... squishy. Yes, I do wear super soft leggings but only with dresses or skirts, not as pants, as a tights alternative. </p> <p>I have much better luck with jeggings. They're just denimy enough to have a little structure and if you get deep black they look plenty dressy. </p> <p>I love the CoH slick avedons but they have a zip fly. I just got these Paige ones in charcoal - those are sold out but here is black:<br /> <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Paige-Denim-Womens-Black-Overdye/dp/B00DR8WU9G" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Paige-De.....B00DR8WU9G</a></p> <p>These have a big elastic band for the waist so it's smooth. </p> <p>You'll notice that both are a cotton/rayon/cupro/stretch fabric, which I adore. It's stretchy but still just a tiny bit firm, but still has a soft hand. And it doesn't do that crawly, itchy thing a lot of high poly denims do. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/nas-eileen-fisher-kr-calling-on-carter-and-peri#post-1543828 Sat, 22 Aug 2015 22:32:13 +0000 Sveta 1543828@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Gaylene, you give me hope! I need to continue try on Sloans.<br />The problem is that after trying on 3-4 pairs and being suffocated in the calf &nbsp;I get discouraged...but I need to persist! </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/nas-eileen-fisher-kr-calling-on-carter-and-peri#post-1543820 Sat, 22 Aug 2015 22:11:32 +0000 Suz 1543820@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Gaylene, you have persuaded me to give these a try. I have a coupon so it is worth a shot. Thank you! </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/nas-eileen-fisher-kr-calling-on-carter-and-peri#post-1543805 Sat, 22 Aug 2015 21:43:31 +0000 Gaylene 1543805@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Ha, nothing slim or delicate about my 15.5" calves--i think I could write a book about calf-sucking pants. But, regarding the Sloans:</p> <p>The Sloans differ widely. BR keeps bringing out variations and labelling them "slim", "straight", "ankle", or whatever. Either the labels don't make much sense or, more likely, the sizing control is non-existent, otherwise how could a "slim" fit nicely on my calf, while a "straight" was calf sucking? I've even experienced variations in a pile of the same size or between<br /> colours! </p> <p>I've also found that the calf eases up quite a bit after a hour or so of wearing--or with a bit of judicious tugging at the calf before putting the pants on--because the fabric is thick, but stretchy. Bonus--the pant fits very nicely into a taller boot. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/nas-eileen-fisher-kr-calling-on-carter-and-peri#post-1543792 Sat, 22 Aug 2015 21:08:16 +0000 Suz 1543792@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p><b>Denise</b>, that is <b>so</b> interesting about your experience. Hmmm. So I'm not the only one who finds leggings difficult.&nbsp;</p> <p>I concluded last winter that I was simply not a legging girl, but here I am stepping up to try the darn things again. I don't know what it is about me and leggings. Maybe I look too often at <b>Deborah'</b>s WIWs, LOL. How come she and <b>Lisa </b>(and others) look so fantastic in theirs??? &nbsp;;) &nbsp;&nbsp;</p> <p>I am getting sick of JEANS. I'm also getting tired of the old jeans and semi-tucked top fallback and want to experiment with some longer tops. Hmmm.&nbsp;</p> <p>Now, as to the suggestion of Okalas with the pants, thank you, but no. 1000 times no. Why? Because if I can wear those shoes, there is no way I am covering up my legs. Seasonal confusion for my climate. Those shoes are summer time shoes for me (no back to them) and the pants feel like a F/W item.&nbsp;</p> <p>But you're right that the boots might have too much going on with them. Good point.&nbsp; </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/nas-eileen-fisher-kr-calling-on-carter-and-peri#post-1543789 Sat, 22 Aug 2015 21:03:03 +0000 Suz 1543789@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p><b>Sveta,</b> thank you for the sympathy. I, too, wonder if all Sloans are created alike, or all legs, for that matter. I happen to know that <b>Mona </b>has lovely slim delicate calves (or at least I have observed that her ankles are delicate and refined) and I think <b>Gaylene</b> is an IT so she probably has slim calves and ankles, too. Harrumph.&nbsp;</p> <p>I tried the Sloans on a few years ago and passed them on to Ms. Mary. I passed them on because I knew I wouldn't wear burnt orange pants. But the fit may have been a subconscious factor. Technically they did fit over my calves, but they didn't glide as smoothly as I might have wished. Still, I might be willing to put up with that for a nice sleek look and yet some stretch.&nbsp; </p>