https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/late-values-beliefs-and-personality-reflection Style Advice for Fashion Lovers en-US Sun, 12 Apr 2026 02:35:20 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/search.php https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/late-values-beliefs-and-personality-reflection#post-2177067 Mon, 08 Mar 2021 19:03:25 +0000 Sal 2177067@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Thank you Liesbeth - i enjoyed getting to know you better through your writing, and see the connection to your style.</p> <p>Your observations are astute about fashion and style - and your place in the world and how others perceive you. I think you are dressing as true to yourself - and that you have learned how to dress in a quietly individualistic way. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/late-values-beliefs-and-personality-reflection#post-2177047 Mon, 08 Mar 2021 18:03:30 +0000 Roxanna 2177047@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Liesbeth - thanks for sharing. This was such a thoughtful read.&nbsp; </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/late-values-beliefs-and-personality-reflection#post-2176930 Mon, 08 Mar 2021 04:21:44 +0000 Renee P 2176930@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Nosy, judgmental people are why the Good Lord gave us two middle fingers. ;)&nbsp; </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/late-values-beliefs-and-personality-reflection#post-2176831 Sun, 07 Mar 2021 20:30:58 +0000 Angie 2176831@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p><b>Liesbeth</b>, wave to Inge! Your flair for writing and languages shows :)</p> <p>I think it can work both ways these days: lots to stress about wrt a plethora of everyday choices, and yet less to stress about because of our style freedom.&nbsp;</p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/late-values-beliefs-and-personality-reflection#post-2176774 Sun, 07 Mar 2021 16:59:16 +0000 Liesbeth 2176774@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Fun to read everyone's additions!<br /> Angie, thank you for your sweet words! I am an English major who reads English novels all the time, I have been an editor (in Dutch though) and in an alternate universe with well-paying steady 9-to-5 jobs aplenty in journalism I might have been a professional writer ;). But no regrets. If I loved writing <i>that</i> much I'm sure I could muster the energy for a blog or something. Now I just enjoy contributing my thoughts here on occasion.<br /> Also, I do wonder if the expectation that we all make conscious choices about our appearance isn't relatively new in history and related to the plethora of choice available. Clothes probably used to be more of an indicator of class, profession and such. I'm not saying that's better, just that there's a lot to be stressing about these days with regard to everyday choices, if you're so enclined.<br /> And to react to Shevia, FashIntern and cat2's remarks: I'm not trying to establish a link between all INTJ's or introverts and a certain way of dressing as I would assume personality traits manifest differently in different people. And that is so interesting! Just that for me I think my not wanting to draw too much attention to myself has to do with my introversion. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/late-values-beliefs-and-personality-reflection#post-2176718 Sun, 07 Mar 2021 02:34:42 +0000 Jaime 2176718@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>You create an excellent portrait of who you are and how it is reflected in your style. Interesting about introverts - I am a very introverted person, but enjoy dressing in non-conforming outfits. I never have managed to skate by unnoticed so I suppose I went the independent thinker route . </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/late-values-beliefs-and-personality-reflection#post-2176713 Sun, 07 Mar 2021 02:14:32 +0000 DonnaF 2176713@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Ha, ha, ha; I’m also an INTJ. I guess the introversion shows up mostly in my (lack of) color choices. FWIW my style changed the most after my daughter left for college and I got too old to fire or just so old that I don’t much care what others think. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/late-values-beliefs-and-personality-reflection#post-2176704 Sun, 07 Mar 2021 00:35:57 +0000 Jules 2176704@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Great read and relatable for me as well. We have to live in the real world and personally, if I must pay attention to clothes in order to make my way in the world happily, I might as well understand what I’m buying and enjoy the process. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/late-values-beliefs-and-personality-reflection#post-2176693 Sat, 06 Mar 2021 23:03:38 +0000 Angie 2176693@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p><b>Liesbeth</b>, I'm also laughing at&nbsp;Susannah Constantine becoming a fleece-wearing recluse! It cracks me up.... </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/late-values-beliefs-and-personality-reflection#post-2176689 Sat, 06 Mar 2021 22:49:07 +0000 slim cat 2176689@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Thank you for a great read from another introvert- enjoying it and agreeing with a lot of things . </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/late-values-beliefs-and-personality-reflection#post-2176686 Sat, 06 Mar 2021 22:40:15 +0000 Angie 2176686@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>*APPLAUSE*</p> <p><b>Liesbeth</b>, are you an editor, journalist or writer? English is your second or third language, and this was beautifully written, relatable, and very eloquent!&nbsp;</p> <p>I think life has always been about conforming or defying our environmental norms. We have to pick when to conform and when to defy, and with peace in body, mind and spirit. You've achieved that state of balance, and your fabulously authentic style reflects it. WELL DONE :)</p> <p> </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/late-values-beliefs-and-personality-reflection#post-2176641 Sat, 06 Mar 2021 18:53:06 +0000 Anonymous 2176641@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Love this- and can definitely relate! I fit in everywhere and nowhere </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/late-values-beliefs-and-personality-reflection#post-2176633 Sat, 06 Mar 2021 17:58:33 +0000 Liesbeth 2176633@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Thanks everyone, I'm glad you like my observations and can see them reflected in my style! </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/late-values-beliefs-and-personality-reflection#post-2176628 Sat, 06 Mar 2021 17:22:10 +0000 LaPed 2176628@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>"At the edge, merely playing at it," is a great assessment! From what I've seen, you've honed your style beautifully and when you add new things they seem very true to you and consistent with your goals.&nbsp; </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/late-values-beliefs-and-personality-reflection#post-2176625 Sat, 06 Mar 2021 16:55:15 +0000 cat2 2176625@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Love the overall example! There are class and cultural distinctions to the pack piece that can be baffling if you are not of the same class or cultural background. The ironic wear of Carhartt hats, shredded work clothes or of camo also don’t cross class lines very well. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/late-values-beliefs-and-personality-reflection#post-2176623 Sat, 06 Mar 2021 16:47:27 +0000 Stagiaire Fash 2176623@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Cat2, I can believe that! I think plenty of people around here will tell you I tend to go my own way. Some of them might mean it in a good way....<br /> Seriously, though, my son and I discussed recently how “everyone is doing it” is something we are likely to see as a reason NOT to do whatever “it” is.<br /> That brings me back to Liesbeth’s post: I prefer to do my own thing, but am aware I live in a world that highly values pack behavior. People can read so much into the way a person dresses that it just makes sense to check what messages others might get from my wish to wear....whatever. (Example—friends once had to talk me out of overalls like these. I think they are funky, like the bright color. They are universally understood in Germany as manual laborers’ clothing. <a href="https://www.engelbert-strauss.de/arbeitslatzhosen/stonekit-latzhose-aalborg-3320520-60351-17.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.engelbert-strauss......51-17.html</a> But there are many subtler examples too) </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/late-values-beliefs-and-personality-reflection#post-2176620 Sat, 06 Mar 2021 16:36:50 +0000 cat2 2176620@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Oh, FI, there is a lot of material on marketing to introverts that you might find interesting. It’s written for extroverts to understand introverts, because sales and marketing attracts extroverts. It confirms the notion it is harder to get us interested in trends. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/late-values-beliefs-and-personality-reflection#post-2176619 Sat, 06 Mar 2021 16:36:26 +0000 Stagiaire Fash 2176619@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Cat2, I’m on board with not following the pack. The two examples you picked to illustrate that happen to be things I’ve had in the back of my head as possibilities for me for some time now, so the effect of seeing them as examples of pack-following was kind of jarring. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/late-values-beliefs-and-personality-reflection#post-2176613 Sat, 06 Mar 2021 16:23:20 +0000 rachylou 2176613@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Oh well now yes, this does nail it. I see how this produces the visual effect. As an observer I name your look, and it’s interesting to know what might be truly going through your mind to produce it. This has always intrigued me. I have many thoughts about what to wear, but they almost never start with the final look. Trying to start with the ‘end’ like that, I often miss the mark by a mile, lol. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/late-values-beliefs-and-personality-reflection#post-2176604 Sat, 06 Mar 2021 15:50:32 +0000 cat2 2176604@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>That’s not what I said! Just that we seem less pack driven. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/late-values-beliefs-and-personality-reflection#post-2176582 Sat, 06 Mar 2021 14:44:58 +0000 Stagiaire Fash 2176582@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Cat2, why do you think gladiator sandals and equestrian boots aren’t for introverts? </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/late-values-beliefs-and-personality-reflection#post-2176580 Sat, 06 Mar 2021 14:35:11 +0000 cat2 2176580@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Glad to hear from another introvert. I think a lot of fashion influencer posting is done by extroverts (too many of whom own the same giant hat). Some of the rest of us just want to evade negative attention and get on with our lives. I find Angie’s analytic posts on what is trending really helpful in that regard. They help me decide what to do to skate by another year. However, no one is going to get me to gallop around in equestrian boots or slice my feet to bits with gladiator sandals. I think in that regard, introverts are more willing to break with a pack than extroverts, who seem to put more of a priority on truly fitting in or in leading the fashion pack. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/late-values-beliefs-and-personality-reflection#post-2176578 Sat, 06 Mar 2021 14:10:32 +0000 Minaminu 2176578@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>very well written, I recognise your description in your style! </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/late-values-beliefs-and-personality-reflection#post-2176577 Sat, 06 Mar 2021 14:10:08 +0000 Anonymous 2176577@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Very well written, and interesting to read. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/late-values-beliefs-and-personality-reflection#post-2176560 Sat, 06 Mar 2021 12:59:12 +0000 Stagiaire Fash 2176560@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>That’s why I like you so much. Seriously, this could’ve been me if I wrote so well. I’m an INTJ also, but before I got to the part I was delighted with how you nailed the fact that “fashion” people don’t understand that not everyone enjoys making a fuss over fashion for themselves, so where the fashion world sees lack of self-esteem, others are enjoying getting on with their lives and not fussing over fashion, except for an occasional thought about how others will read outfits. You said it much better.<br /> The connection you make between loyalty and hanging onto clothes is also great.<br /> Seriously, this read was worth the wait. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/late-values-beliefs-and-personality-reflection#post-2176558 Sat, 06 Mar 2021 12:52:50 +0000 Bijou 2176558@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Yes, I can see this in your style, you are individualistic without being loud. Your elegant restraint is a quality that I admire so much. I too love how all forum members that post regularly have their own style, rather than us all attempting to be clones of Angie’s style. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/late-values-beliefs-and-personality-reflection#post-2176556 Sat, 06 Mar 2021 12:06:35 +0000 Liesbeth 2176556@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Hi everyone!<br /> It’s been a busy couple of weeks but I have enjoyed ruminating on Angie’s prompt and have finally noted some stuff down about my own beliefs, values and personality. I hope you’ll enjoy reading this just as I have enjoyed your stories!</p> <p><b>Beliefs</b></p> <p>I believe that <b>people will judge you by your appearance</b> whether you like it or not. At the same time, I don’t personally believe that how you dress really reflects who you are. I have an example I find intriguing. Back in the day, Trinny Woodall and Susannah Constantine terrorized women all over by insisting that their lack of trying to dress well reflected a lack of self-esteem that had to be remedied. I recently read that Susannah Constantine is now a writer and a bit of a recluse, admitting to completely disregarding her own advice. She has lost all interest in fashion and dresses in fleece most days. I think given the<br /> right circumstances, this could be me. Were society not obsessed with the notion that we must both conform and express our individuality through our clothing, I might be in fleece all the time as well (and at home, I admittedly am).</p> <p>But I will generally try to work <i>with</i> reality, not against it. So for myself I<br /> always look for the balance between wearing what I like and wearing what I think will make the right impression in a given situation. This has become so much a part of me that I no longer <i>feel</i> capable if I dress<br /> sloppily in a situation that requires a polished outfit. So yes to Angie’s<br /> enclothed cognition.</p> <p><b>Values</b></p> <p>I value&nbsp;<b>independence </b>and would say that is why I probably never look exactly right for any situation, even though before I stressed my pragmatic approach to conformity. In any outfit I still want to feel like myself. I have worn sack dresses when everyone was about figure flattery. Back in highschool when I noticed how much I didn’t fit in, I wore the minor trend of bowling shoes before I would ever have been caught dead in the much more trendy platforms. (Before noticing how I stood out, I wore leather low heeled booties! At age 13 in the nineties.).</p> <p><b>Conscientiousness and loyalty</b> are two more values that I was brought up with and that are very important to me. I think this manifests in the fact that I take rather good care of my clothing and that they are with me generally for longer periods of time. I also try to do my part in making more sustainable fashion choices.</p> <p><b>Personality</b></p> <p>I am an INTJ, so more of a <b>big picture thinker</b> with a <b>methodic </b>approach to wardrobe building. When I realized that style could be learned I applied my own analytical approach to it which had always served me well in academic settings. It’s made a world of difference and I no longer lament my lack of innate style compass. Everyone has their strengths; you just need to learn how to use them.</p> <p>My&nbsp;<b>introverted</b> side comes through in my relatively safe fashion choices. I have my own preferences but they will not draw excessive attention. I do try to show some personality in subtle choices (pattern, texture, color combinations and cut).&nbsp;A minor&nbsp;part of the INTJ personality is about <b></b>creativity <b></b>and the five senses. I have&nbsp;learned that I enjoy creativity in many areas including clothes but that I must&nbsp;keep it light-hearted – no lofty goals or perfectionism. So I now see fashion&nbsp;as a <b>fun creative outlet</b> while always considering myself at the edge of&nbsp;whatever the fashion crowd is, merely playing at it.</p> <p>Part of why I love this community are Angie’s mantras of DYOT and don’t let fashion boss you around. It gently nudges me back on the right path when I go into overdrive trying to find the perfect outfit (sartorially or to manage my appearance in a specific situation)!</p>