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YouLookFab Forum » Topic: Hotel fashion: sexist or art https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/hotel-fashion-sexist-or-art Style Advice for Fashion Lovers en-US Wed, 22 Apr 2026 23:23:55 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 <![CDATA[Search]]> q https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/search.php rachylou on "Hotel fashion: sexist or art" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/hotel-fashion-sexist-or-art#post-1679610 Thu, 16 Jun 2016 00:08:45 +0000 rachylou 1679610@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ I just realized for the challenge we all need to take our outfit pic with an instrument ... Just kidding!! bj1111 on "Hotel fashion: sexist or art" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/hotel-fashion-sexist-or-art#post-1679552 Wed, 15 Jun 2016 22:59:07 +0000 bj1111 1679552@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ The Challenge: Embrace your Summer bodies just as they are by wearing outfits that would have as recently as today made you feel self conscious about your body. Or perhaps did in the past. (So much the better!) The Goal: To practice self-acceptance and positive body image, to gain perspective, to encourage other women, to boost confidence, to enjoy fashion, and to enjoy the weather. Timeframe: Now until your Summer ends. It doesn't matter how small or large the insecurity about a part of your body is because at the end of the day - it's meaningful to you. And we respect that. Please post a separate thread for each outfit. I'll start the ball rolling with these pics. You've read that I am embracing my pale skin and ample spider veins. The last TWO outfit posts have been dresses, and I continue to wear lots of skirts and dresses in our glorious warm weather. Who will join me take a stand with their Summer body? I salute you for doing this. And I'll try and wear some shorts (or maybe a sleeveless blouse--I have more problems with my arms) as soon as it warms up.YAY, Nancy. Thanks for your pro-active and positive attitude.I will join you! It's about time.... In the last year or so, I have moved away from anything sleeveless. I feel I look slimmer when my tops/dresses have sleeves because I'm visually top heavy (even though my shoulder & hip measurement is the same). I've still kept some sleeveless dresses though....and I'm going to start wearing them. I love the idea of them, but don't like the way they emphasize that the top of my thighs are my widest area. I'm going to find a way to wear them because they're insanely comfortable!This is the best challenge EVER. I will definitely participate!I'm joining you and Nancy in my own arm-bearing moment and will embrace the challenge with confidence.I LOVE THIS IDEA!!! (and yes...I'm yelling that at the top of my lungs ) I'm so tired of hating my body - that kind of negativity is exhausting, isn't it? My first plunge into this challenge is actually my outfit today - wide legged culottes. On short me! Not traditionally flattering and combined with pale bare legs. And you know what? I feel great in my swishy pants I will be participating in this challenge for the remainder of the summer season. Love love love love love love love love love Thank you Angie...thank you for challenging us in a way that helps boost our self confidence. Thank you for encouraging us to have fun. Thank you for reminding us that ALL bodies and body parts are beautiful because they are OURS. You are a gift to us. I hope you know that I'm in! I'm in! Thank you for this wonderful idea. Love love love love love love I am and always have been very self conscious of my muscular thighs. As a result, I have been dressing around them. Well let's change this! Welcome skinnies and flats. Let's see where it takes me. My push back has always been that I don't believe in cutting myself a break, because that it implies that I'm giving up or thinking I don't deserve to look better. challenge.What a positive challenge, Angie! I am in, of course. The main three things about my body that are making me feel self conscious are my very pale skin, short legs and stretch marks on my upper legs I got when I was 11 or so and were completely out of my control as I went through a growth spurt. So my outfits should feature shorter shorts and proportions that are not leg elongating.Maneera, those are GREAT examples, and I have no doubt that you will rock the looks. Krish, you have fabulous thighs. Love healthy healthy healthy healthy Aliona, go for it. Shannon, I know you to have a stellar positive attitude and great body image. Your comment here confirms that. And I thought that your outfit was Killer. Vicki, your haiku on the blog post was AMAZING, and you also have great arms. Rock on. Lisa, I don't think it matters. You can perceive the challenge just how you want to. Some people can't control their weight or level of exercise in the same way that others can - and they shouldn't have to feel shameful about their bodies because of it. The point of the challenge is to self-accept, embrace and encourage each other. Feel free to interpret that as you wish. It's all good.Tanya, I proudly bat for Team Healthy Vampire Skin with you, and you have great legs.This a challenge I can get behind. Unfortunately it's cold today and I'm wearing my winter "uniform". What am I self conscious about? An easier question to answer would be what am I not self conscious about. However I am grateful for my functioning arms and legs, and general good health. Another player for team What a great idea Angie! Helena, you crack me up. And I do eat chicken. JAileen, see where this challenge takes you and feel liberated. BTW, Angie I'm planning to come in July and look forward to meeting you!!Great challenge! I need to think about this.Oh boy. this is going to be a major challenge for me since I have quite a few issues with my body which is pretty much anything below my waist, and now arms aren't looking the best (although I'm working on it). This challenge will definitely force me to wear my summer sleeveless tops that I've collected the past few years. Great challenge, and yet another example of why I love YLF - the positive-ness we get so little of in our society. Thank you so much, Angie. I can't win, so must embrace. And will document. If the sun ever comes out again here in the DC area! I think we've swapped weather patterns with Seattle this spring. Great challenge! I will stop avoiding sleeveless tops and knee-length skirts (must ignore prominent veins). Instead, I will focus on wearing more color and I might even wear a swimsuit at the beach again! This will make summer so much more enjoyable. I've always been perversely proud of my paleness and never wanted to tan, fake tan, or even use bronzer. I wasn't thrilled about the way my legs look, but I thought it would be odd to fake tan them and nowhere else, so I never have. So that won't be new...that's the stand I've taken forever. Laurie, you crack me up. You are gorgeous. And I know your boys think so too. Sara, it's wonderful to be at a zen place with your body. Peri, how about you grace us with a skirt or dress with comfy shoes for your cute feet. Katya, that's the spirit.The only real hang-ups I have are not showing cleavage or muffin top. And we don't get all that many hot days to show off body parts! I will participate as best I can considering surgery recovery.I cannot wait for the summer challenge. Angie you have once again set the standard. Ya'll are very funny and brave. My Challenge is showing my legs. I have had teenage chickenpox and the scars from scratching are still visible at least to me. It is something I'm very self conscious of. I will make an effort to show my legs in some way this summer. I am me though and I try to be my best me. That is what it's all about right? I will join this challenge and look forward to it even. Thank you Angie, and all, for the positive support and reminder. I'd need a burka to hide my biggest flaw. haven't cared about my pale skin in decades and I've never minded being a little hippy. Those are things that millions of people are born with and there is nothing wrong with them. Middle age has thrown a few extra pounds at me and I'm trying to shed them, but in the meantime I'll still dress in things that are fun to me. My one real figure flattery rule What a great challenge, Angie! I'm also in the process of transitioning to my natural hair colour. We'll see how far I get. I may have to cut it all super short because I'm not loving the in-between state of it right now especially with the long side fringe. I'm also not loving the long side-fringe, period. Just tired of it, I think. So, onwards! I wear shorts even though my legs are not tanned (and will not be) and look like my father's. Why could I not have inherited his perfect teeth? I don't think about it much, if at all, anymore. I will wear shorts when it warms up. Great challenge Angie.Suz, you are wise. I have never noticed your "knee bulges". All I see is Queen Radiant Health. Give the long fringe a while. I was ready to chop it all off half way too. That said, you're after your natural hair colour, so the chop is a good idea after all.Ooooh, Angie, I like that challenge!! I had already sort of thought challenge. And then, I could say I owned something denim so that would be groundbreaking too. Except it would have to be that denim looking, not really denim material...whatever that is. The thin, soft kind for summer. Chambray? So now to find a denim-ish dress that would look good on an IT/Apple in gym shoes! Open to all suggestions. Love this post and reading about how so many are in for the challenge! Woohoo! I will be cheering everyone on Chris, I’m excited to see what you come up with. Joy, I have always admired how well you wear sleeveless tops at almost 70. Aida, thank you. Your challenge is to figure out why you are still adjusting to your current size! You look 100% natural and at ease to me though. Marianna, I have always admired your skin and how well you apply your make-up. Peri, YES. Go for it. You are going to look adorable in a denim dress. Try Tencel - a VERY soft denim look alike. Rachy, bring on the cleavage. UmmLila, you have great legs. Krish, extra positive hugs for you. Thanks for the cheerleading. Jeanne, you always dress beautifully, and I miss seeing your bling. Peggy, that’s the spirit. Rock on. Kerry, good for you. Wow. This challenge has exploded and I am sooo happy about that. WOOOHOOOOO. Chris, I’m excited to see what you come up with. Joy, I have always admired how well you wear sleeveless tops at almost 70. Aida, thank you. Your challenge is to figure out why you are still adjusting to your current size! You look 100% natural and at ease to me though. Marianna, I have always admired your skin and how well you apply your make-up. Peri, YES. Go for it. You are going to look adorable in a denim dress. Try Tencel - a VERY soft denim look alike. Rachy, bring on the cleavage. UmmLila, you have great legs. Krish, extra positive hugs for you. Thanks for the cheerleading. Jeanne, you always dress beautifully, and I miss seeing your bling. Peggy, that’s the spirit. Rock on. Kerry, good for you. angie angie angie angie angie angie angie angie angieangie angie angie angie angie angie angie angie angie angie angie angieangie angie angie angie angie angie angie angie angie angie angie angieangie angie angie angie angie angie angie angie angie angie angie angieangie angie angie angie angie angie angie angie angie angie angie angieangie angie angie angie angie angie angie angie angie angie angie angieangie angie angie angie angie angie angie angie angie angie angie angieangie angie angie angie angie angie angie angie angie angie angie angieangie angie angie angie angie angie angie angie angie angie angie angieangie angie angie Cococat on "Hotel fashion: sexist or art" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/hotel-fashion-sexist-or-art#post-1679103 Tue, 14 Jun 2016 23:23:13 +0000 Cococat 1679103@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ Yes it's art. It's not the type of art I would like to see in a hotel, but it's art nonetheless. DH has an art colleague who produces similar work. He manipulates photographs such as this and adds paint. His work is quite popular, and not just with men. He also does amazing abstracts but he shows and sells more of his 'female form' work. Aziraphale on "Hotel fashion: sexist or art" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/hotel-fashion-sexist-or-art#post-1679055 Tue, 14 Jun 2016 20:08:25 +0000 Aziraphale 1679055@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ Hmm. By sexist, I assume you mean that it objectifies the women in the images. You may find this article interesting: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.elephantjournal.com/2013/08/subjectify-me-5-ways-to-tell-if-an-image-is-objectifying/">http://www.elephantjournal.com.....ectifying/</a> For the record, I think it's art, but it's tacky art. Kitsch. That kind of thing. I also think it's on the objectifying side, but that doesn't stop it from being art. Fine art has a long history of objectifying women. ;-) (To be clear: art is still art, even when it's sexist). Actually, I think you're pointing to a couple of bigger questions here: one, what makes an object a work of art, and two, what makes good art? The second is certainly subjective. ;-) rachylou on "Hotel fashion: sexist or art" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/hotel-fashion-sexist-or-art#post-1678802 Tue, 14 Jun 2016 07:16:05 +0000 rachylou 1678802@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ Ha, rabbit! $.99 bin mood music... That's it! Ohmigosh, tho, you have to tell what all else you learned about those prints (!!) I find them not in poor taste but a taste blackout. My suspiciousness about 'pretty' may have to do with things like this... I think a lot of times pretty equals invisible and this applies to people too. As in models. I don't know where the notion came from that models are the prettiest of the prettiest because it's the clothes on show and the models are not to get in the way of the clothes. Marley on "Hotel fashion: sexist or art" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/hotel-fashion-sexist-or-art#post-1678783 Tue, 14 Jun 2016 05:27:25 +0000 Marley 1678783@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ Hahahaha - Peri - (Men playing trombones!)  Love it! Ledonna N. on "Hotel fashion: sexist or art" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/hotel-fashion-sexist-or-art#post-1678778 Tue, 14 Jun 2016 04:42:30 +0000 Ledonna N. 1678778@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ I don't like it rabbit on "Hotel fashion: sexist or art" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/hotel-fashion-sexist-or-art#post-1678739 Tue, 14 Jun 2016 02:38:36 +0000 rabbit 1678739@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ Like Isabel for me it just reads as bad (trite but not ironic) art if intended as contemporary art.   I can see it as effective commercial art, though now I've spent ten minutes wondering what product it's selling exactly (classical compilation album of seduction mood music destined for the $0.99 bin?  ;) ).   A boutique hotel in our town which reopened recently has a blown up photo of  Bridgette Bardot smoking a cigar on one wall.  That's iconic in it's own way,  but then they have these other random stylized women's faces around that look more like Cosmo covers.  I got confused and thought the business center was actually a beauty salon because of them.   It's basically a head shot only example of the same thing --- images of 'sexy' women as interior decor.  Which is a little off-putting I guess. Heh Rachy I end up studying those faded prints of floral paintings a lot and wondering about their process of de-evolution from some original 19th century still life as reimagined in the 70s and then churned out in a reproduction factory for the next several decades...   annagybe on "Hotel fashion: sexist or art" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/hotel-fashion-sexist-or-art#post-1678659 Mon, 13 Jun 2016 22:59:44 +0000 annagybe 1678659@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ Gaylene are you talking about these? <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1126590/" rel="nofollow">http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1126590/</a> ETA I haven't seen the movie, though I've heard lots of interviews when it was released rachylou on "Hotel fashion: sexist or art" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/hotel-fashion-sexist-or-art#post-1678658 Mon, 13 Jun 2016 22:55:21 +0000 rachylou 1678658@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ Ok... So the next question is... Is this better than those watercolor flowers in teal and peach that you often get in hotels? Gaylene on "Hotel fashion: sexist or art" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/hotel-fashion-sexist-or-art#post-1678640 Mon, 13 Jun 2016 21:51:49 +0000 Gaylene 1678640@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ *laughing* Isabel--trite, yes, much like my reaction to fruit bowls and pastoral meadow scenes? These pictures wouldn't be seen on my walls, but, then, that applies to much of what I see in galleries. But, judged on the kind of "art" hanging in most hotels, these pictures just seemed cheeky (bad pun!) instead of offensive. I'm more offended by those "black velvet" paintings of little kids that were so popular a decade ago; now those, to me were creepily suggestive. I'd prefer a an adult nude any day given those standards. ;) Hey, but isn't it fun to have an art discussion on YLF? Anonymous on "Hotel fashion: sexist or art" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/hotel-fashion-sexist-or-art#post-1678589 Mon, 13 Jun 2016 18:59:36 +0000 Anonymous 1678589@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ The subject matter itself, woman as musical instrument, is trite and without any fresh interpretation so not even close to an art rating from me. The style is a little obnoxious, airbrushed and polished, and also a missed opportunity to do something unusual with the subject matter.  The nudity is irrelevant to me personally, but the type of eroticism does in fact seem sexist. Gaylene on "Hotel fashion: sexist or art" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/hotel-fashion-sexist-or-art#post-1678562 Mon, 13 Jun 2016 17:40:59 +0000 Gaylene 1678562@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ OK, I'm a spanner here because I don't have any problems with the pictures. They actually put a smile on my face because I was amused by the juxtaposition of shapes--a bit of cheeky slyness. I doubt that most Scandinavians would see the pictures as sexist--or even edgy--since nudity is a pretty common sight on the beaches and in many parks for both genders and for all ages--as I say, a bit of sly fun which is a pretty common type of humor for most Norwegians. It's interesting, though, to read others' comments and reactions. Diana on "Hotel fashion: sexist or art" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/hotel-fashion-sexist-or-art#post-1678555 Mon, 13 Jun 2016 16:51:29 +0000 Diana 1678555@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ Cheesy and tacky!  And yes, sexist and objectifying, but to be honest I find it hard to get riled up about stuff like this because I'm too busy rolling my eyes.  BrieN on "Hotel fashion: sexist or art" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/hotel-fashion-sexist-or-art#post-1678502 Mon, 13 Jun 2016 13:33:57 +0000 BrieN 1678502@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ Cheesy, very sexist and I can't believe they are in a "boutique" hotel. What's the messsge? I'm here for your enjoyment. Yuck. Anonymous on "Hotel fashion: sexist or art" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/hotel-fashion-sexist-or-art#post-1678416 Mon, 13 Jun 2016 05:04:42 +0000 Anonymous 1678416@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ "Cheesy" is indeed the operative word here.  Pass the wine. I think they should've used cats instead.  Kind of like the notorious painting of dogs playing poker. rachylou on "Hotel fashion: sexist or art" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/hotel-fashion-sexist-or-art#post-1678350 Mon, 13 Jun 2016 01:27:01 +0000 rachylou 1678350@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ Also agree with Anna. Also think it's cheesy art. Also think it's reflective of sexism at large - because let's be honest, no one wants to look at naked men except for ancient Greeks who are dead. Caro in Oz on "Hotel fashion: sexist or art" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/hotel-fashion-sexist-or-art#post-1678330 Mon, 13 Jun 2016 00:35:33 +0000 Caro in Oz 1678330@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ Agreeing with Anna's - edgy, blah....comment. It's called trying too hard in my opinion.  annagybe on "Hotel fashion: sexist or art" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/hotel-fashion-sexist-or-art#post-1678322 Mon, 13 Jun 2016 00:04:28 +0000 annagybe 1678322@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ Boutique Hotel is telling. Edgy, blah blah blah. I don't know if Norway has the same level of gender equality as Sweden. Though the second one seems like something I'd see in Russia. Peri on "Hotel fashion: sexist or art" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/hotel-fashion-sexist-or-art#post-1678312 Sun, 12 Jun 2016 23:36:26 +0000 Peri 1678312@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ Sexist because there is no point to it. What do nude women have to do with violins or playing the violin? Being nude contributes nothing to an image of music, and the violins contribute nothing to an image of nude women. Have we seen any museum paintings where nudes are paired with violins? Seems more like they are paired just to emphasize the "sexy" shape of both...therefore, sexist. Which makes me wonder...where are the nude men playing trombones? Sal on "Hotel fashion: sexist or art" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/hotel-fashion-sexist-or-art#post-1678269 Sun, 12 Jun 2016 21:37:40 +0000 Sal 1678269@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ I probably see them as on the sexist side, they have chosen young gorgeous women in an almost nude state, and in a hotel, it is fairly provocative. I can see there is a fuzzy line at times, and I don't see myself as an expert. Gigi on "Hotel fashion: sexist or art" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/hotel-fashion-sexist-or-art#post-1678263 Sun, 12 Jun 2016 20:39:21 +0000 Gigi 1678263@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ I would say a little bit of both. I think that for those who are emotionally mature and honestly appreciate and respect women, these have artistic merit. But I would expect them to be in an art gallery rather than in a hotel; I am not sure that hotel clientele would appreciate these as art. I would think that the hotel clientele would be more inclined to view these as soft porn. I know that if I were in this hotel, I would feel extremely uncomfortable and like I was being viewed as an object. I don't know that I would feel that way if I saw them in an art gallery. I look forward to the other responses. bj1111 on "Hotel fashion: sexist or art" https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/hotel-fashion-sexist-or-art#post-1678208 Sun, 12 Jun 2016 18:27:06 +0000 bj1111 1678208@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ On the walls of a boutique hotel in Bergen. Sexist or art? Yay=art Nay-sexist