https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/fashion-versus-fashion-tribes Style Advice for Fashion Lovers en-US Sun, 19 Apr 2026 14:53:23 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/search.php https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/fashion-versus-fashion-tribes/page/2#post-2151726 Tue, 03 Nov 2020 14:36:11 +0000 Anonymous 2151726@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Well you’ll notice there’s no replies from the writer . We’ve seen this happen before - just another anonymous account created to cause dissent . </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/fashion-versus-fashion-tribes/page/2#post-2151719 Tue, 03 Nov 2020 14:26:03 +0000 Janet 2151719@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>I guess I’ve missed something because this just seems like stirring sh*t up to me. I’m not around a lot lately. And I’m certainly not Fashion, whatever that means these days. Carry on! </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/fashion-versus-fashion-tribes#post-2151683 Tue, 03 Nov 2020 12:10:42 +0000 Stagiaire Fash 2151683@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Ummlila, I agree with you that most of the time, most people like to hear interest in their ideas and are pleased to talk about them further—but check out my recent post on dresses and skirts. Some people are definitely *not* here for conversation, don’t even want to further explain ideas they’ve put out there themselves. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/fashion-versus-fashion-tribes#post-2151677 Tue, 03 Nov 2020 11:55:06 +0000 UmmLila (Lisa) 2151677@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>It’s rather amusing to see a new visitor leap in and take offense that people on a fashion forum like fashion and style and have opinions on it. I agree with LisaP that this “controversy” seems quite manufactured. </p> <p>I find that YLF offers conversation, not validation, and support but not coddling. </p> <p>For other sh*t, there’s Reddit </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/fashion-versus-fashion-tribes#post-2151672 Tue, 03 Nov 2020 11:00:22 +0000 Synne 2151672@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Well, then, honored to be part of your tribe, Jenni! I'd love to dive into your wardrobe. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/fashion-versus-fashion-tribes#post-2151671 Tue, 03 Nov 2020 10:52:05 +0000 Stagiaire Fash 2151671@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>JennieNZ, absolutely that’s a tribe, but it generally doesn’t recognize itself as such. White values are assumed to be universal and to apply to everyone equally. A philosopher friend of mine has written, for example, on how formation of the subject is assumed to take place in conditions of freedom which do not exist for everyone equally; those other peoples situations are not taken into account in determining what “really” happens in a “normal” situation. I know white is just one of the descriptors you used; I think the same thing applies to the others as well—strong tribe, doesn’t recognize itself as such, claims universality. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/fashion-versus-fashion-tribes#post-2151652 Tue, 03 Nov 2020 08:44:13 +0000 Jenni NZ 2151652@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Well I had to Google what Clueless was even about! I knew it was an old movie but I have never seen it. My girls were only 4 and 1 when it came out so I guess I was too old and they were too young.<br /> I think I know what you mean about Fashion. I think it can speak here sometimes, but not that much. Mostly this forum has shall I say “ordinary” women from various walks of life who are interested in how they present themselves and are indeed mostly kind. You might have just happened upon a few harsher threads almost by bad luck.<br /> I don’t think I belong to any tribe myself. Is a conventional white middle class (WASP in this case) woman a tribe at all?<br /> Cheers, I hope you stay. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/fashion-versus-fashion-tribes#post-2151632 Tue, 03 Nov 2020 07:12:06 +0000 Stagiaire Fash 2151632@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>LisaP, I wondered if that referred to a comment you made to me. If you had said “cut off all that old lady hair” out of the blue, it would’ve been offensive, but that isn’t what you said at all—you mentioned it as one way to pursue a certain style, if that was what I was interested in. Very appropriate and appreciated. Not like the “ohh, this is the high wire—very dangerous—don’t try this at home!” vibe of some other comments on that thread. </p> <p>Janet, you mean you want her to list the specific threads she’s referring to? I think her point is the general pattern, not going into the weeks on each individual one. </p> <p>Cat2, you probably saw in some of my threads that people around here can take themselves and their Fashion very seriously. I try to avoid all the pathos. Whenever I start working again, I will probably need serious help parsing unwritten dress codes. What I wear is important to me for events like weddings or giving presentations, but generally, if I don’t like what I have on, I can change it as soon as I get home. Not a big deal to me. But yeah, being flip about it like that can really upset some people, as I’ve been reminded. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/fashion-versus-fashion-tribes#post-2151576 Tue, 03 Nov 2020 03:26:52 +0000 Jaime 2151576@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Huh? Too early and not enough coffee to fully process this thread but no one has ever been anything but kind to me when I wear vintage, primarily shop second hand, chose to go grey 8 years ago before it was very common, cut all my hair off, etc.&nbsp; </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/fashion-versus-fashion-tribes#post-2151570 Tue, 03 Nov 2020 03:04:59 +0000 Anonymous 2151570@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Haha- the hair comment must have been from me . I think you need to understand the context and extensive history , AND the dynamics of the people involved before jumping to conclusions . The pandemic , btw , is having different ramifications for all of us . Hair salons are wide open where I live . Is this a trolling post perhaps designed to stir up controversy ? </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/fashion-versus-fashion-tribes#post-2151567 Tue, 03 Nov 2020 02:50:28 +0000 Brooklyn 2151567@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>I read your post in the same way as Janet. Like her, I didn’t understand it, as I also don’t see YLF as particularly fashiony. I think most people here are very thoughtful about their style choices and not engaged in chasing the latest look. Eg there is an oldies but goodies challenge going on at the moment, and lots of people are into it.</p> <p>As Sal mentions, sometimes there is tension. That’s to be expected when people are expressing opinions. I do think you have to be a little robust to participate in a forum. Sometimes putting your preferences out there (particularly if you also post photos) can be challenging. And it can be hard not to take a different preference personally, especially if you find yourself in a minority. You have to be up for some diversity and disagreement, that’s the nature of a forum.</p> <p>One of the reasons I joined YLF rather than another fashion forum that will remain nameless is that I saw a thread on that forum where several women lamented the fact that women over 40 often wear boots in an effort to look trendy and commented on how tragic they looked. I never ever see that sort of self congratulatory nastiness here. The overwhelming culture here is supportive and kind.</p> <p>(And a big thumbs up to what LAR101 said.) </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/fashion-versus-fashion-tribes#post-2151556 Tue, 03 Nov 2020 01:58:14 +0000 Janet 2151556@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>I apologize if my response above seemed abrupt. But your first sentence, which I will quote below, seemed designed to stir up stuff, and I found it curious. </p> <p>“I was thinking this morning about some of the recent strings, which I found dismissed any view other than that of Fashion, represented by a sort of grownup Clueless vibe, devoted to the competitive acquisition of new things and dismissing anyone who didn’t compete and try to win.”</p> <p>You’re implying a catty, judgmental, materialistic attitude on the part of forum members, and as someone who has frequented these parts for many years, I find that kind of blanket statement unfair. Rather than throw out a judgment such as that, why not address specific criticisms and explain a bit more about your style and perspective. It seems you’re pretty new around here, and I think it helps to understand where you’re coming from. Traditionally, the group at large has been welcoming, constructive, encouraging, and not beholden to one way of style. But hey, if you perceive differently, let’s talk about what it is you see and why it seems problematic. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/fashion-versus-fashion-tribes#post-2151546 Tue, 03 Nov 2020 01:19:54 +0000 Stagiaire Fash 2151546@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>May I suggest that before you do that, you tell us a bit more about yourself and/or fill out your profile? Then you can set it up so that if someone sends you a message here, you’ll get a notification in your email and can correspond with that person (unfortunately, group messages don’t work). It sounds like vintage/secondhand are of interest to you. What else? </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/fashion-versus-fashion-tribes#post-2151540 Tue, 03 Nov 2020 01:03:43 +0000 Sal 2151540@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>cat2 - I rarely see harshness here - but there can be tension at times.&nbsp; As with all forums especially when people are from all around the globe, and with English being a second language for some, there can be misunderstandings.&nbsp; And in weird times like we are now many of us are under stress.&nbsp;</p> <p>But I also think that forums are not for all, or maybe a different forum is more of interest.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p> <p>Whatever you decide, all the best.</p> <p> </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/fashion-versus-fashion-tribes#post-2151538 Tue, 03 Nov 2020 00:50:57 +0000 cat2 2151538@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Thanks, I had not logged in or posted at all and then had the experience on four or more different posts of watching people being dragged through the coals for wanting to wear vintage, wanting to shop second hand on line, wanting to restyle older pieces, and one poster being told to trash everything and start over (and cut and color her hair and get new glasses in the middle of a pandemic). I was surprised by the harshness. I think I will go back to just checking the daily updates. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/fashion-versus-fashion-tribes#post-2151521 Mon, 02 Nov 2020 23:38:20 +0000 rachylou 2151521@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>I like what Phoebe wrote. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/fashion-versus-fashion-tribes#post-2151520 Mon, 02 Nov 2020 23:32:22 +0000 Janet 2151520@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Eh. Why the need to compartmentalize and divide? I don’t see YLF as very Fashiony, quite honestly. Maybe I’m not understanding your point. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/fashion-versus-fashion-tribes#post-2151490 Mon, 02 Nov 2020 21:46:37 +0000 nemosmom 2151490@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p> <div>I do not find 'tribe' offensive. If I understand your reference to Fashion correctly, I don't see Fashion as a reigning voice here in the forum. I have been a member just over a year and found that forum members come<br /> from various backgrounds, lifestyles, life stages, shopping preferences, wardrobe sizes, churn tolerance, and of course personal style. Some fabbers here go WAY back, having "known" each other for several years.<br /></div><div><br /></div><div>There is diversity here, and I have never, ever found it to be divisive. At no time have I ever felt like I had to buy or wear the latest/greatest trends in order to 'fit in' here.&nbsp; Even when one fabber's poison eye is another's signature look, it's all critiqued with the best of intentions. IME everyone has been open, welcoming, and kind. <br /></div> </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/fashion-versus-fashion-tribes#post-2151483 Mon, 02 Nov 2020 21:20:37 +0000 celia 2151483@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Cat2 , I would like to understand better how do you feel that a fashion tribe is less restrictive than Fashion.<br />From my perspective 'fashion forward' or 'all latest trends adopters'(the 'clueless' group you mention)are just another fashion tribe.&nbsp;<br />Not saying that there is anything wrong with either but they both seemed based on a set of rules that tends to group people for how they dress.<br />Regarding the forum I see , and have seen trough the years many different styles, fashion personas and representation from different fashion tribes.</p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/fashion-versus-fashion-tribes#post-2151477 Mon, 02 Nov 2020 21:00:47 +0000 Anonymous 2151477@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Thank you for this reminder of so many important things that trying to respond is almost overwhelming.</p> <p>The enthusiasm and support that Angie expresses for virtually every style represented here demonstrates the kind of spirit you are calling for and going forward I am happily committing to following the good example set by you both.</p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/fashion-versus-fashion-tribes#post-2151474 Mon, 02 Nov 2020 20:51:05 +0000 LAR101 2151474@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>The main tribe that I read from this blog is kindness: kindness for each individual no matter where they are. There is no Fashion, none of the groups you mention exist ... for me .... here. I see individuals trying to develop and share their personal style and receiving mainly kind comments and feedback. I sometimes read the blog for that kindness. And I love all posters, with all kinds of closets and all kinds of lifestyles<br /> And I think they are all welcome here. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/fashion-versus-fashion-tribes#post-2151473 Mon, 02 Nov 2020 20:47:56 +0000 Sal 2151473@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>I find tribes interesting too, although I fight against being part of one.&nbsp; Funnily enough I would copycat forum members but never my friends because I like to look different to them - and try to shop in different places.&nbsp; I am pretty mainstream in my choices but I dislike wearing my hair the same as my sisters, or wearing the same jeans as everyone else at the party.</p> <p>I think I understand what you mean, but I don't quite agree with your comments about the forum.&nbsp; There are forum members who wear mostly vintage or retro, and some who are more into casual/sporty looks, and others more punk or boho.&nbsp; But I guess we do lean into modern classic looks more than more tribal looks in the most part.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p> <p>And yes there are some ridiculous aspects to fashion that I agree with - one year cold shoulders, the next midriffs etc..&nbsp; It is madness at times.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p> <p>Forums evolve and move around too so posts in isolation can be confusing if you don't know what has happened six months ago etc..&nbsp;&nbsp; </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/fashion-versus-fashion-tribes#post-2151462 Mon, 02 Nov 2020 19:53:37 +0000 Anonymous 2151462@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Removed. &nbsp;</p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/fashion-versus-fashion-tribes#post-2151453 Mon, 02 Nov 2020 19:38:17 +0000 Anonymous 2151453@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>comments removed&nbsp;</p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/fashion-versus-fashion-tribes#post-2151434 Mon, 02 Nov 2020 19:08:52 +0000 Irina 2151434@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Sorry, wrong thread. Comments removed.</p> </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/fashion-versus-fashion-tribes#post-2151432 Mon, 02 Nov 2020 19:07:38 +0000 rachylou 2151432@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Yes, Quite Right (!) </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/fashion-versus-fashion-tribes#post-2151431 Mon, 02 Nov 2020 18:55:56 +0000 Stagiaire Fash 2151431@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Yes, I recognize the phrase. I meant that if DYOT is a variation on Fashion, then it has a shorter radius than if it's a variation on whatever "your people" do. </p> <p></p> <p>Are you a sociologist?</p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/fashion-versus-fashion-tribes#post-2151428 Mon, 02 Nov 2020 18:49:47 +0000 cat2 2151428@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>DYOT is Angie’s term, but to me it would be a conscious decision to stand apart from both Fashion and your Tribe. Perhaps pieces that are sentimental or that you love but don’t fit a current narrative?</p> <p>And BTW I apologize if my use of the term Tribe offended anyone, in the sociology sense we build group identities. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/fashion-versus-fashion-tribes#post-2151420 Mon, 02 Nov 2020 18:10:37 +0000 Stagiaire Fash 2151420@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p> <div>Beautiful. <br /></div><div><br /></div><div>DYOT --is that a variation on your tribe's style, or on Fashion?<br /></div></p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/fashion-versus-fashion-tribes#post-2151413 Mon, 02 Nov 2020 17:47:52 +0000 slim cat 2151413@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>There are certain situations when the "tribe fashion" needs to be tweaked a bit to be suitable - unless of course this is a strong position to be very unique, stand out from a crowd and use it with confidence.</p>