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				<title>rachylou on "Evolution of a bag lady aka is this length better with these shoes?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2021 23:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;(Tbh, Fash, the point of Seinfeld was that they were all terrible people. The final episode—they all get their just desserts. It’s cringe funny in the way Blackish is kinda… which I admit while funny, is too painfully true for me to watch.)
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				<title>Angie on "Evolution of a bag lady aka is this length better with these shoes?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2021 23:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;(George is my favourite of the Seinfeld cast too).&#038;nbsp;&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Super cute with the jacket! Fun pattern mixing. Dress length is fab, and the shoes work well with it, WITH the bag - which pulls it all together.&#038;nbsp;&#060;/p&#062;
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				<title>Stagiaire Fash on "Evolution of a bag lady aka is this length better with these shoes?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2021 11:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Suntiger, very true about the different ways it feels. That’s why I did that other thread where I was asking what people there wear in these temps. Glad you like the cognac. I guess it’s medium contrast for me.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Synne, for a sitcom I’ve never seen, I’ve read an awful lot about that one, because it constantly pops up as an example of the shows that are set in very cosmopolitan places, most often New York, that either ignore non-white characters or use them as foils, so that things like being so embarrassed that literally all your friends are white that you beg people you scarcely know to pose as your friend in a picture, or getting a food vender deported, or other ugliness become gags, ways for the nebbish to shrug off their “cluelessness” with a chuckle, belittling problems they create for other people. Sex in the City is another one that comes up frequently for its centering of whiteness in a city famous for its many cultures and colors. But I gather neither Eileen nor any of those women are timid/ineffectual/nebbish and it is true that life in the USA is very segregated—that’s what the “i have a Black friend” joke relies on. I should watch them sometime as research, but celebrating that flaw (which exists here too, to be clear) isn’t appealing.  I really did not start this thread to have a debate, just repeated a reference to a style-of clothing, not of how to deal with other people.
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				<title>Anonymous on "Evolution of a bag lady aka is this length better with these shoes?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2021 11:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I do have to say that I like the cognac more than I would a black or other high contrast to you closed shoe.&#060;br /&#062;
70 can feel quite different! 70 and sunny is fine for all the normal summer clothes, but 70 and rainy feels much colder. Actually I find midi skirts to be really good for the mild fall weather.
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				<title>Synne on "Evolution of a bag lady aka is this length better with these shoes?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2021 10:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Lol, Fash! Seinfeld is about jewish New Yorkers. It's a hilarous sitcom, my favourite character on TV ever is Constanza. Elaine's style has become iconic. Long  full skirts and blazers. &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;You look great!!
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				<title>Stagiaire Fash on "Evolution of a bag lady aka is this length better with these shoes?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2021 08:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Thanks everyone! It’s funny about the “big shoes”. Wearing combat boots with sundresses is a thing (at least here) but dialing back that clunkiness brings out the doubt. Interesting &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Preppy, you know “change of pace” is my middle name. I wasn’t exactly thinking of it when I put this on, but you’re right—I live to add slightly unexpected twists. &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Sal, how did I miss that??&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Rachylou, from what I can tell, there are no characters on the show I want to emulate—bunch of clueless white folks whose cluelessness is excused because they’re cute about it—but the comment that I was dressed like one of them amused me. &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Ophelia, the thing I still haven’t figured out is how people in BosWash (yes, that includes the area in-between) interpret these temperatures. Here as in Tampa, people act like 70 is chilly and they bring out the warm fall clothes (well, in Tampa they thinks that’s deep winter). But I’ve lived other places that have the “hang onto summer” vibe and wear warm-weather clothing as long as they can. The DC end of the trip is easy, because it will be undisputedly warm. But further north, when temps are on that cusp, idk what people wear. &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Jenn, good thing the boxy works, because blazers r not me. &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Sally, the shoes were stiff when I first got them. I’ve broken them in a bit. For me, leather shoes without socks aren’t usually a problem. That’s probably not helpful. Sorry. &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Brooklyn, I’ve got the skirt. High-five on the double-bagging. &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Thanks, RobinF. &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Lynn, I wondered who would recognize the dress. I’m enjoying it for everyday wear, instead of special events.
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				<title>lyn67 on "Evolution of a bag lady aka is this length better with these shoes?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2021 08:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Still love the old dress- has a great print, color and length(!)-but think the shoes are a bit heavy to it without the jacket- but works well as a complement with the bag.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2021 21:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Great dress! I'd like it more with sandals, but that's my default  <span aria-hidden="true" class="emoticon emoticon-smile icon-emoticon-smile "></span>  I don't see Elaine either.
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				<title>RobinF on "Evolution of a bag lady aka is this length better with these shoes?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2021 12:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I don't see Elaine but think the shoes look great with that dress.&#038;nbsp;
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				<title>Brooklyn on "Evolution of a bag lady aka is this length better with these shoes?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2021 11:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I think you look great. Modern. Euro. Classy. I like the double bag thing too.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;I think Elaine would have worn a ditsy floral, a much longer skirt and socks. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2021 09:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I think the dress looks great with the shoes.&#038;nbsp; How do you go wearing those shoes without socks?&#038;nbsp; They remind me of my brogues and I'm not sure i could wear without socks (but love the sockless look).&#038;nbsp;&#038;nbsp;
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				<title>Sal on "Evolution of a bag lady aka is this length better with these shoes?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2021 22:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Sal</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Here was my tribute to Elaine last year.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;&#060;a rel=&#034;nofollow&#034; href=&#034;https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/wiw-inspired-by-elainechallenge&#034;&#062;https://youlookfab.com/welookf.....echallenge&#060;/a&#062;
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				<title>Jenn on "Evolution of a bag lady aka is this length better with these shoes?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2021 22:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Elaine would wear an oversized blazer with this outfit. &#038;nbsp;Your boxy jacket looks more modern, I think. &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;I like the outfit better with the jacket than without. The autumny shoes with the summery sleeveless dress feels a bit bottom-heavy to me, even with the nice addition of the crossbody. A scarf up top would add another layer of texture/pattern and even out the visual weight once it's cool enough.&#060;/p&#062;
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				<title>Preppy Pear on "Evolution of a bag lady aka is this length better with these shoes?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2021 22:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Not Elaine, but lovely.  I really like the shoes with this dress.  I see a dress like this and immediately think sandals - these are a nice change of pace.
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				<title>Sloper on "Evolution of a bag lady aka is this length better with these shoes?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2021 22:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I think the dress length and shoes work fine together.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;I'm another one who never watched Seinfeld - ok one episode that someone taped and we watched at work during lunch - the JFK Jr. one about &#034;mastering one's domain.&#034;&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;I was googling some Eileen images and found this article about the influence of the character's style:&#060;br /&#062;&#060;a rel=&#034;nofollow&#034; href=&#034;https://www.crfashionbook.com/culture/a30473188/elaine-benes-seinfeld-julia-louis-dreyfus/&#034;&#062;https://www.crfashionbook.com/.....s-dreyfus/&#060;/a&#062;
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				<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2021 21:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I like the dress on you - so summery.  Shoes are fine with it - red sandals would also work.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;And Elaine is a fine role model.  I love her.
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				<title>rachylou on "Evolution of a bag lady aka is this length better with these shoes?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2021 19:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;This is AbFab. Store Window material in my neck of the woods.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;This is not Elaine, but Elaine’s style is iconic. It’s only when people start to say you ACT like Elaine, you should worry  <span aria-hidden="true" class="emoticon emoticon-wink icon-emoticon-wink "></span> 
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				<title>ophelia on "Evolution of a bag lady aka is this length better with these shoes?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2021 18:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Your gorgeous red sandals look like they will go w/ the skirt &#038;amp; dress (esp w/ that cardigan). You'd have to do a try-on.&#060;br /&#062;
I went back &#038;amp; re-examined the other shoes &#038;amp; decided they do go w/ the green in an earthy sort of way--&#038;amp;you'll be walking.&#060;br /&#062;
Colors are easier to me than proportions. It will be interesting to see what you discover when trying on. The top you choose for the skirt will have an impact of course.&#060;br /&#062;
You won't need tights in the south {cringe}.&#060;br /&#062;
How many pairs of shoes are you planning to take?
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				<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2021 18:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;You wear green well! I like it styled with the light brown shoes and bag. Adding socks would add to the Elaine theme  <span aria-hidden="true" class="emoticon emoticon-smile icon-emoticon-smile "></span>  I often use two bags too.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2021 17:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;CarolS, so many cultural touchstones in that show—pity I never watched it. Glad you like the outfit. &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Ophelia, i don’t think ive gotten the remark before. When Bijoux commented it recently, the skirt I was wearing was indeed from J Petermann, the company Eileen worked for on the show. You are on the nose about white sandals—they are the other shoes I considered wearing today, but then I decided it wasn’t quite that warm. If I take the dress on our trip, I probably won’t have those sandals &#038;amp; will have to choose between these shoes and my red clog sandals. &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;I’m trying to work out now which length skirts/dresses work best with the shoes. Next up will be the above-the-knee navy JP skirt. The question there will be whether I need tights or not. Same with the desigual dress, if I take it. The weather will almost certainly be too warm to wear it as I am in the find. Our earliest appointments are at 10; most are later.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2021 16:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;The green &#038;amp; white work fabulously w/ your skin &#038;amp; hair color. I think this is because the predominance of white. It harmonizes with your hair &#038;amp; the green hue goes well w/ you.&#060;br /&#062;
The shoes work-but do seem warm toned to me, but I have a hangup about that. I'd go for any shade of white/off white or metallic if you have it (don't you have white sandals?).&#060;br /&#062;
I've never seen Seinfeld but used to get the Elaine comment all the time. Long skirts, flat shoes &#038;amp; long puffy hair I guess.
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I think those shoes look great with the dress -- and the bag and jacket pull it all together beautifully, Great outfit.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;And no, you don't look like Elaine, in it -- &#034;not that there's anything wrong with that...&#034; (You have to know Seinfeld to know the phrase)  <span aria-hidden="true" class="emoticon emoticon-smile icon-emoticon-smile "></span> 
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				<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2021 15:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Pictures taken after swimming, not before. Hey, I match the pool walls—must mean I ought to do pix right here &#038;amp; now. It’s meant to be. &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Anyway, the question is about wearing these shoes with skirts, and what length skirt works. &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Do I still look like Eileen? This dress is not J Petermann; it’s Coldwater Creek, from about 16 years ago. Is Eileen a bad role model, anyway?
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