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				<title>JAileen on "Ask Angie et al:  A Softer Black?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2014 02:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>JAileen</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I've been stalking this charcoal jacket for awhile. Unfortunately it's a little pricey. I'm hoping it'll go on sale before they run out of my size :&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;&#060;a href=&#034;http://shop.nordstrom.com/s/vince-sweater-scuba-jacket/3749603?origin=keywordsearch-personalizedsort&#038;#038;contextualcategoryid=2375500&#038;#038;fashionColor=BLACK&#038;#038;resultback=4500&#038;#038;cm_sp=personalizedsort-_-searchresults-_-1_13_A&#034; rel=&#034;nofollow&#034;&#062;http://shop.nordstrom.com/s/vi.....s-_-1_13_A&#060;/a&#062;
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				<title>Deborah on "Ask Angie et al:  A Softer Black?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2014 00:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Deborah</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Charcoal grey would be a lovely alternative for black.  And I imagine it would look amazing with your jewel tones.
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				<title>Angie on "Ask Angie et al:  A Softer Black?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2014 00:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Angie</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Wooohooo. I'm looking forward to your experimentation with new neutrals, Beth Ann. xo
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				<title>Suz on "Ask Angie et al:  A Softer Black?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2014 00:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Suz</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Brown would be gorgeous on you, Beth Ann. And I love the idea of adding texture, also. Something I need to think about as well.&#038;nbsp;&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Yes, you can for sure handle stronger colour than I can, but luckily, charcoal is up to either challenge! It gives you flexibility. As others have said, it can be difficult to find, except in suiting.&#038;nbsp;&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;As for the tragic story of warm grey, oh, I know it well. Any yellowish grey is worse than death to me, truly.&#038;nbsp;&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Whereas any bluish grey is like a soft wind blowing good.&#038;nbsp;&#060;/p&#062;
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				<title>Beth Ann on "Ask Angie et al:  A Softer Black?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2014 21:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Beth Ann</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;You guys are amazing!&#038;nbsp; I find it quite relaxing to muse over fabrics and colors and silhouettes.&#038;nbsp; It's like a gardener reading a seed catalog in February!&#038;nbsp; &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Marlene:&#038;nbsp; warm grey is tragic on me, and doesn't play well with my wardrobe.&#038;nbsp; Store lighting can be terrible, as can catalog pics, which makes it that much harder.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;UF:&#038;nbsp; Excellent reminder:&#038;nbsp; There are many ways to soften black -- pinstripes and pindots included!&#038;nbsp; A pair of wide leg pinstripes would be fun!&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Suz:&#038;nbsp; I don't soften my jewel tones as often, but I can wear those shades, too.&#038;nbsp; I am finding myself drawn to a blue that is softy greyed, but I'm not sure it makes me &#034;pop&#034; as much as a truer blue.&#038;nbsp; Something to think about.&#038;nbsp; &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Adelfa:&#038;nbsp; We do share coloring!&#038;nbsp; I've not worn much charcoal in the past, and I spend my 30's in a whole lotta black! (Hey, it was the 90's).&#038;nbsp; A medium or silver grey is definitely easier to find than deeper, textured greys.&#038;nbsp; &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Angie:&#038;nbsp; I think I need to explore more textured colors and fabric in general, particularly for fall/winter.&#038;nbsp; The complexity suits me and the winter climate here.&#038;nbsp; And I keep thinking about brown -- I'd love to give it a try.&#038;nbsp; Certainly it would add a new twist to my blues, blacks, and even my deep garnet reds and dark purple.&#038;nbsp; 
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				<title>Angie on "Ask Angie et al:  A Softer Black?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2014 20:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;YES. Charcoal grey is gorgeous on you, Beth Ann&#038;nbsp;- especially if it's textured. Perfect with your jewell tones. I also love you in dark blues and chocolates actually. Your colouring looks fabulous in shades of dark brown.&#038;nbsp;&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;And to answer your question - dark grey and ink blue can be &#034;your black&#034;.&#038;nbsp;xo&#060;/p&#062;
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				<title>Adelfa on "Ask Angie et al:  A Softer Black?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2014 18:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Adelfa</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;As someone with coloring similar to yours.... I've known for 30 years that deep charcoal, especially when tweedy, is better for me than black. However I find it impossible to capitalize on this knowledge because deep tweedy charcoal only comes along once in a while but black is everywhere. &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;So when I find it, yay! But it's more a special occasion thing than a backbone thing. &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;I also think you'll have to test to see if it sets off your different jewel tones well enough. &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;I love deep brown but in limited doses and usually in shoes or belts. Actually wearing brown shoes or boots with a black based outfit really softens it and adds a sophisticated touch. I think you'd wear this look really well if it appeals to you at all.
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				<title>Suz on "Ask Angie et al:  A Softer Black?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2014 18:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Suz</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Marlene speaks sense. Not all greys are created equal.&#038;nbsp;&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Charcoal is supposed to be &#034;my&#034; black, as a &#034;true summer&#034; -- and I do find it a bit less demanding to wear.&#038;nbsp;&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;It plays very well with others -- but then, the &#034;others&#034; in my closet are all (except for my summer cobalt) a little bit on the muted side or softer side -- not crystal clear jewel tones but softened jewels. Buffed jewels, anyone?&#038;nbsp;&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Seriously -- fuchsia vs. hot pink....cranberry vs. tomato or true red....there is a bit of grey or white in most of the colours I wear.&#038;nbsp;&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Anyway - I find charcoal works with berries, most blues including ink and navy, black, cognac, taupe, white &#038;amp; off-white, reds, some purples and orchids....
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				<title>Helena on "Ask Angie et al:  A Softer Black?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2014 18:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Helena</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I think the gray would be really flattering and would work nicely with the jewel tones as you describe. But, as much as I hate to say it, there is no black but black imo  <span aria-hidden="true" class="emoticon emoticon-sad icon-emoticon-sad "></span>  There are just some circumstances in which even deep&#038;nbsp;gray does not substitute (e.g. when dressing up basics for evening, let's say).&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;One thing I've noticed is that black can be softened by fabric choice - for example, a black knit looks (to me) softer than a black fabric with sheen to it. A black drapey top looks softer than a black stiff top. Also, earring in the right color for you work wonders imo.&#038;nbsp; I think I'm just expanding on unfrumped's point.&#060;br /&#062;Good luck with it!&#060;/p&#062;
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				<title>unfrumped on "Ask Angie et al:  A Softer Black?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2014 17:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;Wow, I could have written this post! Aside from just avoiding black altogether, I too find a &#034;soft black&#034; very useful and different from true black.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Charcoal can work like a soft black but I found another couple of pathways to the elusive &#034;not jet black.&#034;&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;One good find was AT (sorry, yep!) black pinstripe lightweight wool pants and blazer. The pinstripe is very subtle and either it alone &#034;softens&#034; the black or there is something different about the black fabric in between the stripes or both--I gave up trying to tell. It &#034;reads&#034; as an off-black. The faint stripe also works really well with grays or real colors where sometimes black pants are so stark. I'm wearing these a lot, even in summer.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Tweeds are probably a good bet, but also fabrics that are tweed-y but more subtle-- pindots.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Sometimes sheen or texture can help--something that interferes with the light-sucking properties.
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				<title>Marlene on "Ask Angie et al:  A Softer Black?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2014 16:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Marlene</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;As someone that wears A LOT of gray, I can only say &#034;it depends&#034;. &#038;nbsp;The challenge with gray is it can be either a warm gray or a cool gray. &#038;nbsp;And the deepness doesn't seem to really take that into account.. &#038;nbsp;I had a gray sweater that was quite dark but it was also a warm dark gray and it was not good on me. &#038;nbsp;My trick with the grays is to actually hold it up to the items that you want to pair it with and see if the warm or cool tones pop. &#038;nbsp;I have a hard time just figuring it out when its on its own. &#038;nbsp;
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				<title>Beth Ann on "Ask Angie et al:  A Softer Black?"</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2014 16:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
				<dc:creator>Beth Ann</dc:creator>
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				<description>&#060;p&#062;I've been trying to avoid grey in the past couple of fall/winter seasons.&#038;nbsp; This is not going particularly well, as I'm also trying to avoid too much black, and I try to keep my color palette somewhat reigned in.&#038;nbsp; I do love so &#060;i&#062;many&#060;/i&#062; colors, but I'll end up with a Pollack painting for a wardrobe, if I'm not careful.&#038;nbsp; &#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;I have been pairing ink with black (yes!), and love the deepest of purples, teals and burgundies worn almost as neutrals, as well.&#038;nbsp; I have not yet incorporated deep browns.&#060;/p&#062;
&#060;p&#062;Lighter greys do me no favors.&#038;nbsp; They fight the olive in my skin and the golden tones in my hair and hazel eyes.&#038;nbsp; Darkest grey --- particularly a tweedy deep charcoal --- seems far better.&#038;nbsp;&#038;nbsp; &#060;b&#062;Does&#038;nbsp; deep, tweedy grey work essentially as a soft black on someone with my coloring?&#038;nbsp; Could there be a place for it in my wardrobe, particularly as a way of softening black and bridging to my dark jewel tones like sapphire and burgundy?&#038;nbsp; Or do I turn my neutral gaze elsewhere?&#060;/b&#062;&#060;/p&#062;
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