https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/administrative-suggestion-protecting-posts Style Advice for Fashion Lovers en-US Wed, 06 May 2026 05:54:55 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/search.php https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/administrative-suggestion-protecting-posts/page/3#post-174188 Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:28:46 +0000 Vani 174188@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Jaime, Hi and welcome I'm by no means one of the most active members here, but I just wanted to comment on something you mention - "I think I would also feel a little uncomfortable posting in a way b/c, no offense, it seems kind of clique-y here. The same people all seem to know each other and like any other clique it is hard to get in."</p> <p>Actually, it is quite funny because even though I "feel" like I know everyone well and on a first name basis (I like that we use people's names, it seems so much more personal) I have not spoken to nor met a single YLF member in person. IMHO it is, in fact, a testament to the all-embracing nature of this forum and its members that it comes across as everyone seems to know each other. The member roles and status don't really mean much in the context of everyday posting and participation and I certainly haven't noticed anyone racing to achieve "badges" as such.</p> <p>I hope that this discussion will convince you to actively participate in the forum and blog as often as you can, even if you don't post outfit pictures etc. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/administrative-suggestion-protecting-posts/page/3#post-174061 Tue, 22 Jun 2010 14:44:41 +0000 Jaime 174061@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>De-lurking here to give my 2 cents. I have loved this blog since I discovered it last year and check it every day. A couple of times I have posted but have had a really hard time with resetting my password and have to go back through old emails for my starter password so it is not worth it. I just lurk. I think I would also feel a little uncomfortable posting in a way b/c, no offense, it seems kind of clique-y here. The same people all seem to know eachother and like any other clique it is hard to get in. And now that it gives your member status it has just solidified this feeling. This may be just my perception but it is still how I feel. Everyone seems super nice here though so I am not insinuating that it is a "mean girls" kind of thing at all.</p> <p>I think if you include the option to go private then most of the regulars would automatically click that so it they could just keep it amongst themselves. Not saying I blame them b/c why wouldn't they want to keep it amongst themselves and private if they could. I think you would definitely lose readership over this-I know I would probably not visit every day. Maybe once a week or so just to get the Angie Posts.</p> <p>My suggestion would be for all of the regulars who want to keep in touch and talk personal to get a Yahoo group going. This way you could talk as much as you want on any topic you desire without worrying about your privacy. This would also help keep to a limit some of the more off-topic and "offensive- to- some" posts. (I have to admit being taken aback and somewhat offended at some of the discussions that I felt were political and/or anti-American. There is a place for those discussions-you don't expect to find them on your favorite fashion blog ) </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/administrative-suggestion-protecting-posts/page/3#post-173964 Tue, 22 Jun 2010 10:09:34 +0000 RoseandJoan 173964@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>I'm 100% with both Deborah and Ana on this subject, the level of privacy and need there of should begin and end with the poster. I am both open and honest on the forum, if it bites me on the bum it will be nobodies fault but mine. Personal responsibility is so important.</p> <p>Thank you Greg and Angie for listening so thoroughly to our opinions. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/administrative-suggestion-protecting-posts/page/3#post-173717 Mon, 21 Jun 2010 20:46:16 +0000 Lisa 173717@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>I understand a need to keep information private, but I think there is enough control now to do that. If photos and posts were members only I'm not sure I'd wait it out until I could view them. The access to photos is what drew me into reading YLF daily. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/administrative-suggestion-protecting-posts/page/3#post-173529 Mon, 21 Jun 2010 13:16:47 +0000 Debora 173529@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Angie and Greg, thank you so much for being so open to suggestions from members. I really appreciate all the hard work, energy and love that you put into this website. As for myself, I would prefer to see the forum remain as is. I lurked for almost a year before I got up the courage to join in. I think I would have been a little put off by a "members only" option. I love the openness of the forum, but feel that ultimately the poster is responsible for how much or how little she feels comfortable in revealing. I have used the PM feature on several occasions to answer questions and give out additional information to forum members privately that I didn't feel comfortable revealing on the more public forum. Like Mac, I have also shared some identifying information with Angie in private emails. Ultimately, I will support whatever decisions Angie and Greg come to because I know that they will be made with much deliberation and the forum's best interests at heart. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/administrative-suggestion-protecting-posts/page/3#post-173517 Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:30:33 +0000 anne 173517@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>I wanted to second those who are arguing that needing to be a member to look at photos would put up a barrier to those who were new. I lurked for about 3 months before I got up the courage to post and this is the only internet forum I post on. If I had had to log in I think I just wouldn't have bothered.<br /> Which is why I don't read articles from the NY times for instance, because they want you to register. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/administrative-suggestion-protecting-posts/page/3#post-173493 Mon, 21 Jun 2010 05:28:40 +0000 elpgal 173493@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Angie &amp; Greg, I know you don't like to micro-manage but since the forum is growing so quickly, I would like to make a suggestion. </p> <p>Perhaps, it would be worth having a sticky post in which you specify your expectations and suggestions for the forum ( respectful language, inclusivenes, guidelines for body type posts, etc) and include a tidbit about your preference for fewer OT posts. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/administrative-suggestion-protecting-posts/page/3#post-173460 Mon, 21 Jun 2010 03:56:43 +0000 Maya 173460@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Oh Mac, I so appreciate you appreciating me I will probably start blurring my face again but I wouldn't stop posting all together. I don't think I could--my decision making skills are crippled without ylf!</p> <p>I will also probably keep my job drama more to myself, or just PM those who are interested. Stupid as it sounds, I just realized now how bad and risky it is for me to talk so much about work and coworkers. </p> <p>I also don't know if everyone I know IRL needs to know I'm a bra fanatic, giving strangers on the internet advice about their boobs... </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/administrative-suggestion-protecting-posts/page/3#post-173459 Mon, 21 Jun 2010 03:52:49 +0000 Patience 173459@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>I'm with Ana's original post. The internet is not a private place. Plus you have a private messaging system for people to communicate more privately. I think outfit picture posts are just as personal as OT personal posts so where would that lead us? Each poster has to assess his comfort zone and I think what Angie and Greg have provided is completely appropriate. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/administrative-suggestion-protecting-posts/page/3#post-173449 Mon, 21 Jun 2010 03:27:13 +0000 Mac 173449@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Maya! I love that you are "cozy" here - your openness and willingness to share have made me feel like I kinda-sorta know you... and I like what I've come to know. : )</p> <p>On the other hand, I have myself been reticent to share a lot because in a past life *cough,* I was a bit of an internet stalker myself for a few years. Not in a crazed way, but if a friend mused about "whatever happened to Ex-Boyfriend XYZ," I'd get on the computer with her and you'd be ASTOUNDED by the stuff we could find. I stopped, since a) I realised it was pathetic b) it didn't feel like a very nice thing to do to unsuspecting people c) it sort of creeped me out, even tho' we were the ones being creepy! </p> <p>As a result, my FB page has no photos of me, I will never post a photo of my face here and I try not to share too much identifying information about myself. I did send Angie a private email with a photo of my face, partly because I felt sort of rude that she'd posted so many photos of herself while I hid behind a veil of total anonymity (not that she cared but I felt impolite) and partly because I wanted her to see that I am who I say I am - a middle aged female (ever wondered how many of the "female" posters here are actually men who get their jollies by being part of a chatty female community? I'd bet my nose that there's at least one)</p> <p>Anyway, what I'm trying to say is that even though I love love love your openness, Maya, I'd completely understand if you decided to become a bit more private. I'd miss the photos and the frank talk, but I would absolutely support your choice.</p> <p>And back to the original question: I know that there's no such thing as real "privacy" on the internet, but I would support an effort to make certain posts a little less viewable by passers-by. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/administrative-suggestion-protecting-posts/page/3#post-173447 Mon, 21 Jun 2010 03:25:42 +0000 Gaylene 173447@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>This is a tough one. I think that, if I hadn't had the chance to "lurk", I might have written this forum off as something that wouldn't have much to offer for someone in her 50s and 60s. That would have been a mistake.</p> <p>I think everyone's openness and willingness to share and support is one of the nicest features of this community. Angie and Greg have created something quite unusual in this site. Their commitment towards ensuring that comments and conversations are lively but respectful make this forum a rarity on the web. Creating an "inner" and "outer" group seems counter to the sense of community that they have created here. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/administrative-suggestion-protecting-posts/page/3#post-173446 Mon, 21 Jun 2010 03:25:42 +0000 Kristen 173446@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Ana, I often do the same thing now (not logging in while checking out the site), and the downside is you miss out on utilizing any of the other cool new features Greg has recently implemented, like being able track which posts you have read, which have new comments, etc. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/administrative-suggestion-protecting-posts/page/3#post-173443 Mon, 21 Jun 2010 03:20:19 +0000 Queen Mum 173443@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>ah, my mistake Angie... I interpreted this statement incorrectly in your blog post (11/24) introducing the YLF store...</p> <p>"It will support YLF though, helping us to offset some of the expenses of running the site and taking us closer to the day that we can make YLF a fulltime pursuit."</p> <p>anyhow... I really do love the fact that people share a bit of themselves here... job frustrations, family happenings, etc... I think it's a strength of this blog and makes me think of you all as friends in a way. I just meant in my statement that when we choose to share these things, it is at a "risk" of sorts given that there are more passing through than members and we needn't ask Angie and Greg to accommodate for that for us. Am I making any sense? I know I often don't... LOL </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/administrative-suggestion-protecting-posts/page/3#post-173430 Mon, 21 Jun 2010 02:58:20 +0000 Mellllls 173430@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>From a user standpoint, I don't see how only the OT posts could be private. The user would have to classify the post and could just as easily classify a fashion post an OT and therefore private post. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/administrative-suggestion-protecting-posts/page/3#post-173427 Mon, 21 Jun 2010 02:54:07 +0000 Maya 173427@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>I don't mind the occasional lighthearted OT post (like the one about gift wrapping) but I think maybe the personal ones need to be reevaluated. I am as guilty as anyone of posting quite a few of them, but I think I'm going to be more mindful and keep my personal junk off the forum unless it relates to fashion somehow. I feel I have gotten a little too cozy here and should step back a bit. I would personally prefer not to see any new featues that will encourage more OT posts. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/administrative-suggestion-protecting-posts/page/3#post-173426 Mon, 21 Jun 2010 02:53:28 +0000 Ana 173426@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Now that I think about it, I guess if you made OT posts visible only to active members, I could just peruse the site while not logged in, and only log in if I wanted to specifically reply to something. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/administrative-suggestion-protecting-posts/page/2#post-173422 Mon, 21 Jun 2010 02:49:39 +0000 Ana 173422@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Greg, what you say makes sense. However, I wonder if there would be a tendency for people to feel that an OT section visible only to active members really is safely private? As you've pointed out, in reality it wouldn't be private at all. Would you perhaps come up with a privacy policy that members would need to read at registration that makes that point very clear? </p> <p>Would this also encourage people to make more OT posts? I think it would. If you are going to make OT posts "private," would there be some way to really separate it from the other stuff, or some way for active members to block it so they wouldn't have to see it in the Recents tab? Personally, I agree with KristenKP above, I'd rather nothing was done and OT posts kept at a minimum. I don't mind the odd one, but I rarely read OT posts and I would rather there are fewer posts like this so I don't have to scroll past them to read the fashion posts. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/administrative-suggestion-protecting-posts/page/2#post-173414 Mon, 21 Jun 2010 02:44:41 +0000 Angie 173414@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Kim, thanks for your very thoughtful last comment. The blog will never be a full time endeavour for me because I enjoy working with my clients too much! But the two workloads are complementary so they mesh well. Hopefully I'll still be a 65 year old fashion stylist. </p> <p>Michelle, thank you for starting the thread and for your thoughtfulness too. Greg brought back the thread to your original questions and I hope you feel that they were answered. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/administrative-suggestion-protecting-posts/page/2#post-173401 Mon, 21 Jun 2010 02:18:41 +0000 Greg 173401@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>A lot of great input and support in this thread -- thanks very much.</p> <p>I just want to reassure you that we will probably never provide the ability for "on topic" posts to be "members only". That undermines the point of YLF, which is that the answers to one person's question are here for other people to read later on.</p> <p>I also agree that complete privacy is impossible to guarantee, even on a secure system. Just look at all the high profile iPad users who had their email addresses leaked recently.</p> <p>Michelle's original suggestion was very specific though. She was only talking about OT posts, and she wasn't asking for privacy -- only that certain OT posts could be made "active member only". This really isn't real privacy given that anybody with even a small motivation can become an active member within a week. </p> <p>All it would do is reduce the chances that something a little more personal wouldn't be visible to the casual passerby. </p> <p>To me the real question isn't as much about privacy as it is about the importance of OT posts. I have to admit I was a little worried when Angie talked to me about the frequency of OT posts increasing, but then I realized that its a sign that people are happy in this community and want to share more stuff. That's great.</p> <p>So while we will continue to put fashion &amp; style front and center, we are interested in the value that people see in OT posts and how we can support them better. I saw Michelle's post in this light. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/administrative-suggestion-protecting-posts/page/2#post-173348 Mon, 21 Jun 2010 00:16:26 +0000 Michelle 173348@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Excellent points, one and all. I certainly would never want to compromise Angie and Greg's amazing accomplishments and would rather abandon this line of thought altogether than create uncomfortable situations for them. Privacy settings may indeed be too much trouble and not worth the effort. And everyone has raised excellent points about personal responsibility.<br /> Thanks a lot, everyone. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/administrative-suggestion-protecting-posts/page/2#post-173336 Sun, 20 Jun 2010 23:47:38 +0000 Queen Mum 173336@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>While I certainly understand the desire to be able to post things for just "the inner circle" to see, we have to remember that this forum is really a business venture of sorts of Angie and Greg... I think I remember her saying when they launched the store that her long term dream was for the blog to become a full time endeavor. (forgive me if I am mistaken) They need to be able to run the forum in a way that most benefits their efforts and I support that 100%. So we must remember that we are all here as guests of Angie and Greg and this isn't our own personal web site as our Facebook accounts might be. We must use discretion when posting personal information and be aware that just because we feel at home here, it is still a very public place.<br /> Angie and Greg- thank you both for all the time, energy and love you put into this forum and blog. We all benefit beyond comprehension from your generous spirit genius style sense.<br /> kudos to you both! </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/administrative-suggestion-protecting-posts/page/2#post-173317 Sun, 20 Jun 2010 22:39:14 +0000 taylor 173317@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Truthfully, what a poster puts out here rests squarely on~ the posters~ shoulders. Don't share on the net if you don't care who knows, particularly the very personal, private and sensitive OT stuff.</p> <p>Angie and Greg may have essentially solved this prob when they implemented the private message . If you want to share something private, so far that has worked wonderfully well.</p> <p>Either way I am very happy to continue to post my photo's and later remove them myself") </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/administrative-suggestion-protecting-posts/page/2#post-173301 Sun, 20 Jun 2010 20:26:28 +0000 marianna 173301@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>I tend to believe in the saying: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." After reading all the wise comments, I too don't really see the point in making a "private" sector of YLF. We each have the power to share as much or as little info as we want. No one is forcing us to share our real name or post our pictures, etc. I haven't seen Medusa on the forums lately, but she is a great example of an active forum member who was very discreet. It's doable! </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/administrative-suggestion-protecting-posts/page/2#post-173294 Sun, 20 Jun 2010 19:42:20 +0000 Beth 173294@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Mellllls' post is exactly what I would have written if I were a more articulate poster.</p> <p>I've been a newbie on forums that had members' only areas, and it was so difficult to reach that status that I finally moved on, feeling that much of the real community was behind a closed door. Then again, if reaching member status is easy, it defeats the purpose in the first place.</p> <p>Internet privacy is an illusion and we're responsible for what we put out there. I thought about this when I started posting pictures. My first pics were neck-down photos. But you know, unless you can put faces to posters, especially as a newbie, it's hard to feel part of a true community. It's one reason another board I visit requires posters to use names (even if it isn't your real one) in order to foster a sense of togetherness. I love the open, inclusive community here. I'd hate to see that change. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/administrative-suggestion-protecting-posts/page/2#post-173290 Sun, 20 Jun 2010 19:32:11 +0000 Kristen 173290@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Maya, I'm glad this has been an eye-opener for you! I think it's always important to remember everything you post on the internet is going to be seen by many people you will probably never even know are there. I've had that lesson taught to me time and again in my years online. </p> <p>Even just recently, I had a couple of my outfit photos added as "favorites" by someone on Flickr. I keep all my photos open and available for anyone on that site because I also have thousands of non-outfit photos under that name, and I frequently get requests from church bulletins, non-profits, other websites, etc to use my photos in their marketing. I followed the links of the people who liked my outfit shots, assuming it was another fashionista on Flickr (there are pools of those groups too there). Imagine my shock when I discovered it was a sexual fetishist who had photos of naked and/or bound women! I have no idea why they liked my innocuous outfit posts, but it was a huge wakeup call for me! </p> <p>Since then, I have had to change all my settings on my Flickr account so no one can find me in random searches. I'm sad my flower and nature shots are hidden away too, but them's the breaks! </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/administrative-suggestion-protecting-posts/page/2#post-173286 Sun, 20 Jun 2010 19:16:04 +0000 Kristen 173286@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Some really good points have been made, both pro and con. While I do like the idea of different tabs/topics sections and have suggested something similar in the past, I have to join the skeptics on making any of them private. Ana's points about people having more realistic understandings of how thin online privacy really is are excellent ones. Moreso, I have never been in favor of anything on YLF that alienates new or lurking readers. It's the same issue I have with the buttons under our names now; I think it can too easily cultivate an 'us vs. them' environment, which is the antithesis of what YLF has been about. </p> <p>I would prefer fewer OT posts, or more discretion used on their topics, long before I would want to see a private OT section. I think it dilutes the purpose and spirit of the forum. At least that's my perspective on it! </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/administrative-suggestion-protecting-posts/page/2#post-173285 Sun, 20 Jun 2010 19:13:23 +0000 Maya 173285@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>You know, I'm starting to think this whole idea is kind of pointless. First of all, the entire forum isn't going to be private. Only selected posts are. Second of all, "private" is a true misnomer. Nothing is going to be private. It takes about 2 seconds to sign up, and once you do, you can see all the posts. That is not "private." Everyone can still see what you post. There is just an extra step for some people, and not a very hard one to overcome.</p> <p>Even then you are not obligated to post anything. You can STILL be a member without posting anything. </p> <p>I'd be interested in seeing something that told me how many members vs. how many "guests" were on the forum at any given time. I often forget that people lurk around here because they have no presence. Being able to see that would serve as a good reminder. </p> <p>I think I might go back to blurring my face again after this discussion. It has been a wake up call for sure. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/administrative-suggestion-protecting-posts/page/2#post-173281 Sun, 20 Jun 2010 18:53:38 +0000 Angie 173281@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Frances, what an absolutely lovely comment. Please accept a huge hug of thanks for your awfully kind words. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/administrative-suggestion-protecting-posts/page/2#post-173279 Sun, 20 Jun 2010 18:50:47 +0000 Frances 173279@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Angie &amp; Greg, it's true that you won't be able to please everyone. But I think it's been a great dialogue to have, and reading everyone's responses really got me thinking about the complexities of managing this forum, the importance of privacy, the responsibility we each bear for the content we individually contribute, and the fresh perspective that new members bring to our ongoing conversations. I personally will support whatever decisions you make and thank you not only for taking the time to listen to everyone's perspective, but for creating this unique forum and investing so much of your time and energy in managing it. While I like to imagine it's a labor of love, I know it must take up a good deal of your time, and I hope the diversity of responses indicate to you both how much your members value and cherish this special community you've built. </p> https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/topic/administrative-suggestion-protecting-posts/page/2#post-173276 Sun, 20 Jun 2010 18:45:28 +0000 Angie 173276@https://youlookfab.com/welookfab/ <p>Ana, *hugs*. </p> <p>At the end of the day the internet is not private no matter HOW you look at it. That's a crucial point. It *is* easy to achieve active status on YLF and that's all it would take. </p> <p>I haven't even begun to think about the legal issues because my mind is slow to think that way. But thanks for bringing up that point, Ana. </p>