Astrid I really don't have a clue. It is way more decent than Victoria Secret. It came across my Facebook news feed some time ago. I really like it.

Yep Americans are like that. I don't know why we are so conservative in some areas and liberal in others. Breast feeding is very controversial. I don't know.

Thanks for the info.

I do like those ads Ledonna.

Yep Momo I love them.

Lots of you won't like me for losing my filter right now, but give me a moment to call 'em as I see 'em, maybe later I will be able to respond with a more dignified, calm addition towards the 'education' of Alexandra:

Yes, Alexandra, you ARE judgemental. Prefacing your comments with the phrase "I'm not being judgemental" does not make the fact that you ARE judgemental disappear. It's a passive-aggressive move that makes the recipient of the your judgement feel confused for being hurt by your narrow window regarding this subject. Anyone feeling hurt by Alexandra, listen up! She DID bring a shallow, judgemental, unenlightened, aggressive-but-perfumed-over opinion she holds of some of us to light. It is sad to have to do so, but also very admirable that many here have been able to step up to the plate with grace and try to expand Alexandria's thinking. I think the ball's in her court now...

I have been thinking about this a lot over the last three days. I am outraged by the original post. I truly don't understand why the original posting was not deleted immediately as not being respective of the core philosophy of this site, that is, to dress the body you currently have and to feel good while doing so! Any indication of implying one should feel 'less than' or 'less worthy of feeing good about oneself' because of a poster's perception that to not be thin is simply an 'inaction' or 'laziness' on their parts DOES NOT BELONG.

I truly commend the wonderful and thoughtful replies. But they shouldn't have been necessary. And the feelings of offense, anger, and 'less than' by an inappropriate post should not have been invoked as they are counter to what I thought the site's core philosophy was. At this time I'm uncertain whether I can continue on this site because the allowance of this post is counter to a core philosophy of inclusion that I seek. I suspect that there are other quiet lurkers that are similarly dismayed.

There have been many tremendous replies. And I also appreciate those that have removed their 'filters' and said that this is inappropriate and that an apology is necessary.

I would truly love to see this post disappear from view so that there isn't a constant reminder whenever reopening YLF forums.

+1 here for being offended by the original post and additionally hurt by the lack of compassion or apology when many have graciously shared stories of how comments like those in the original post, and some follow up posts hurt them.

I have a friend who often says impact is more important than intent, and I think that's very true here. This thread was hurtful to many people, even if many of those who were hurt pushed through that pain to try to bring an eloquent understanding of WHY it was hurtful.

A lack of this sort of post is exactly the thing that has kept me comfortable visiting YLF for so many years. I hope we haven't opened a door to more of this type of discussion here. There are many things that make YLF a special place, but the lack of body shaming is the #1 one that has allowed me to participate here when I would never dare share personal wardrobe pics in other corners of the internet. That safety net, and the ensuing participation from more members of more sizes and body types than I've seen other places, is a salve for so many of us "less thans".

I saw at least part of that ad somewhere.... it was banned? How bizarre. (And what is up with those cardboard and tinfoil Victoria Secret angel wings? Now that embarrasses me!)

Hey, listen. When I was 18, my college dorm roommate went pro-African nationalist and changed her name to Namibia ('no thanks, mom'). I asked, in discussing the issues, 'why we couldn't all be American?' That upset her. Because, well, obviously everyone of colour is always only a qualified American - Asian American here myself. It *was* bourgeois of me to ask. Unsympathetic. Unmindful even of self. Notwithstanding that I went to China and not a single person recognized me as being Chinese (which is hilarious). Still, tho, we bridged a gap in our mutual immaturity in having the interchange.

Difficult discussions are difficult. I admire YLF for its ground rules of earnesty and the benefit of the doubt.

Thanks to all those who graciously contributed to this thread. I think it has run its course and we are closing it. My apologies to those who found some parts of it upsetting.