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How to Decide Whether an Item is Dated

I wanted to write a post that explained how to recognize a dated wardrobe item, but although I make these decisions on an almost daily basis as I review the closets of my clients, it was impossible for me to distill my thought process into a set of simple guidelines.

It used to be an easy rule: wardrobe items that are 10 years or older are dated. Pass them on. Hmmm. Not so fast. Some wardrobe items date well before the 10 year mark, and some older items can still look perfectly fab. Four things make the decision more complex than you might expect:

  1. Fashion repeats itself
  2. Vintage and retro wardrobe items can be hip and cool
  3. So called “dated items” can be re-mixed to look current and contemporary
  4. Personal style and fashion persona play a big role

Sometimes a dated item can be rejuvenated with a different ensemble. For example, I recently came across a 10 year old top that looked dated with jeans or trousers, which is how the client wore it before. But when we layered it over a contemporary blouse or a shirt matched with skirt and fashionable footwear, the top was re-mixed to look current.

I had a similar experience with a boxy 20 year old suit blazer that looked dated when worn with the slacks my client bought it with. But 80’s and 90’s fashion has repeated itself, so we tried scrunching up the sleeves and layering it over a short “now” sheath dress with “of this fashion moment booties” and fun hose. Voila, hipness! This is not to say that all blazers from the 80’s and 90’s should be salvaged because many of them do look horribly dated. But sometimes they can work again if my client fancies the idea and is a daring dresser.

Items date at a more rapid rate for some people than for others. If you’re super fashion forward and trendy, wardrobe items feel dated fast. Some clients look at what they bought as recently as last year and say, ”I don’t want to wear that again. It feels tired and dated. Onto something new”. They loved the item when it was a  fringe trend  – but somehow it lost its appeal as soon as it became mainstream. Into the Goodwill pile it goes for someone else to remix!

Sometimes my client needs to be edgy and fashion forward to make a dated item work in a retro-modern ensemble.

In fact, personal style is probably the biggest factor at play. I might convince one client to hold on to a 30 year old 70’s style leather blazer, but with another client and the exact same item I might suggest passing it on. Why? The first client has a strong arty and retro element to her style and has the coordinating contemporary wardrobe pieces to complete the look. It wouldn’t be a stretch for her to make the item work. The second client is comfortably modern classic and would be much happier updating her leather jacket to a new style that she can wear with almost everything for the next five years.

So no simple guidelines, but there are some things to think about when dealing with an item that might be dated: Has it come back into fashion? Can it be remixed with other items to make it current? Can it be part of a vintage or retro ensemble? Is the result aligned with your personal style? And the most important question: do you feel confident wearing the resulting outfit?

If you are still uncertain, ask your friends what they think. After all, talking about it can be half the fun! My challenge to you for the next week: post an item that you think is dated on the YLF forum. Together we will brainstorm the possibilities and decide whether it really is time to pass it on.


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How to Decide Whether an Item is Dated

Very interesting post! I expect my clothes to last and 10 years for many items doesn’t seem too old for me (awful admission!). I’ve been realising more recently that I do need to let go of a lot of these items, though, and that I really will not be able to make these work now.

I like your lists of things to think about and, time permitting, will be able to take up your challenge with ease!

ah, I do have a jacket that I have been meaning to post for a keep or toss evaluation. I’ll try to get to that.
I have a 5 year rule for most clothes…. I can’t think of one thing in my closet that is anywhere near 10 years old. As I’m not terribly arty or retro, I’m guessing I’m not missing out on anything by tossing at the 5 year mark. I do see however, that remixing can be a fun and valid option for a piece that fits great and is still in good condition.
Thanks for the tips!

Great post! I guess my trendy style explains why a good portion of my wardrobe feels old after a year. But from a practical point of view, I would like to have some nice items that last me a long time.

Oh, I so have an item to post to determine dated or retro. I had been thinking of doing it a few weeks ago but never got around to it.

I’ll play the cynic. Isn’t the whole notion of tweaking styles each year just a ploy by the fashion industry to keep people buying new clothes each season?

Play with new styles if it suits you. But in the interest of sustainability and economic value focus on flattering, timeless clothes that can last a decade or two :-O.

I had an experience with this issue earlier this week.

I’m pretty zealous about purging my closet, and after a weight loss several years ago almost everything is newer. Even when I was back to the old size, the older things were mostly dated, or were the right size but not flattering because my body had changed with age and a baby. Except for one item, a black lace shell blouse from Casual Corner.

Now you all know that CC is long gone as are the days of suit wearing. But something made me keep the black lace (I’ve discussed that in a recent blog post). And guess what, now it’s back in style.

I pulled out the top, took out the shoulder pads (yes, shoulder pads; they were held in w/velcro versus sewn in, so the later shoulder pad era). I tried it on and the top was long enough. (Things being too short are one of the worst ways of looking dated.) Worn with a military jacket, it looked stunning!

Do I have to choose just ONE item? ;) Um…I think I might have a few.

This post is a good one for me, as I tend to hold onto clothing items too long (or at least I did pre-YLF, and my thrifty soul still hates to see “perfectly good” items passed along!). But since I am neither arty nor retro, I think keeping older items probably isn’t a good option for me.

How do shoes/boots fit into this formula? I’m guessing that unless footwear is especially trendy, one might expect to hold onto items a bit longer if they’re in good shape?

This post is spot on for me, I have found a sleeveless suede vest with faux fur still in the bag I bought it in. It looks just like the fur vest I have seen in style magazines. It is about 7 years old with the tags still on. I will post a picture and get opinions if it will work with slacks.

I was putting this into action just this morning before. I found several sweaters that I was wearing as recently as late spring but now realize they don’t even go down to my hip bone. I was increasingly feeling a sense of something ‘off’ about them but not enough to get rid of what was a favorite several years ago. I think the hard part of purging dated stuff is admitting it’s seen it’s better days and even if you felt awesome in it the first season, each succeeding season gets a little less awesome until you’ve reached awkward lol!

Great challenge that is right up my alley! It will have to wait till next week, though, but then I will take it on!

I used to buy items I thought were timeless, until I realized that it’s very hard for any piece of clothing to be truly timeless. Even a simple, classic buttondown oxford can look dated after a number of years ~ the collar shape or size might do it, or the silhouette can look “old.” It’s not impossible, but I’ve finally realized it’s a lot more difficult than I thought.

I think the key is intentionality! That is, quality items from any decade can look terrific–if the wearer knows what she is doing and makes a deliberate choice to style the older item.

By Angie’s schema, I am generally a modern classic, but with a pretty wide arty-eclectic streak. I have always shopped in vintage and thrift stores. Upwards of half of my wardrobe comes from secondhand sources, including ebay, at the moment–for environmental reasons and simply because I like something different–but I think that most people wouldn’t be able to spot those items. Most are surely 5-10 years old, and many are much older.

Some of the oldest pieces in my wardrobe that are in active rotation: an A-line gray plaid Pendleton skirt, just below the knee (at least 25 years old); vintage campus boots (probably 35 years old); a gray wool double-knit dress, which I bought at a church rummage sale as a high-school kid (about 45 years old–and it looks very of-the-moment right now); Irish fisherman cardigan that was my mom’s (40+ years old); beat-up blazer-style leather jacket, no shoulder pads (at least 15 years old); and oodles of older and vintage scarves and shawls.

This is such a great post, and the fashion persona angle really hit home for me in light of my recent post on the forum.

I see all these fabulous, fashion forward, arty girls wearing pieces that are clearly dated and even a bit frumpy, but they make them look amazing. They just seem to have a knack for finding the right pieces and knowing exactly how to style them–things that I would ordinarily pass over without a second thought. I often look at them and think “wow, I wish I found that jacket.” But the truth is, even if I did find it, I would have probably ignored it because I wouldn’t know what to do with it. Clearly a lot of imagination is needed, and I don’t have much imagination unfortunately.

I guess there are two categories of fashion forward dressers: One group is always about the here and the now, and another group that can reach back and forward at the same time, taking a dumpy old powersuit and making it fresh long before anyone else. I think it’s worth noting that the second group is reaching FAR back. I don’t think something that dated just a season ago will have the same edge as something that dated 10 years ago. I’m too young to really have anything from that long ago, so I would have to source from vintage and thrift stores.

I remember seeing a girl on the Sartorialist sporting a strong shoulder jacket long before they came back, and thinking “she looks amazing.” It didn’t even occur to me that she was wearing something “dated.” She was way ahead of the curve. I, on the other hand, don’t feel ahead of the curve so much as right alongside it.

I enjoy trying new trends and all, but I also really envy those girls who just do their own thing and follow their gut. They’re the trendsetters. I’m just a trend follower.

I just took a bunch of dresses to the tailor. I was doing another closet purge and have dresses that I still like, but don’t wear. I had them shortened to tunic length to wear with leggings.

For an example of someone who doesn’t know when something is dated, go to my blog…..

In fact, Angie, feel free to use me as an example anytime.

:)

This gives me much food for thought. I think the way I know something is dated is when I no longer wear it even though I used to wear the previously. Sometimes, I do go back to it after a few months but often, it’s because I no longer feel contemporary when I’m wearing that item. I will work on remixing in different ways, that’s an execellent suggestion – thank you!

I’m looking forward to the forum threads!

Secondhand shopaholic, you are very gracious to chime in.

I think it’s an absolute art to purchase so called dated items and make them look hip again. You ABSOLUTELY need to have very “now elements” in the ensemble (and in your overall appearance) to pull them off. That’s why thrifting can be fab – or very bad for your style. Time and time again I see dated thrifted items that don’t work – at least not to my eye. Style is definitely art :-)

LOVE this challenge, Angie! Just before finding YLF I donated a couple of jacket/ blazers that I still regret parting with, seeing now that I could have just reworked them a little. I lhave always loved to repurpose items and give them new life, so much the better if you can do it in your closet too. I’ve been pondering an item and have thought about posting a picture here to see what I can do with it. It’s more of a spring/summer item, but would love to see if I should just let it go. It may be next week before I can get to it, but I look forward to it.

Great guidelines Angie. These are my favorite posts along with the posts that show you.

Love the challenge. I have the perfect piece to post next week. :)

It’s interesting that fashion persona is the most important part of whether or not an item looks dated- makes sense though!

Thank you, thank you, thank you! I have always been a thrifter and remixer. Often I can find current-again trends in thrift stores, but sometimes I just have or see something I feel has vintage/retro appeal and just need to make it work. I’m going to try to model one todday and see what you all think of it… So glad YLF is here to help!

Very insightful post . Thank you for clearing things up.

I think I may be more inclined to keep items and wear in a new and interesting way and pair with a current or trendier item. I do have a few pieces that are dated, but are so fabulous is quality or design I just won’t part with!

Audi is wearing thrifted items today and looks amazing:

http://geekthreads.blogspot.com/

And Sal of Already Pretty has a nice guide on current thriftable trends:

http://www.alreadypretty.com/2.....rends.html

Wow, what a thought provoking post. Tons of stuff in there to mull over. It made me think about why I sometimes know instantly that something is dated (e.g remember those culotte/gaucho pants? They were so on-trend for a couple seasons many years ago, but now they look dated to me in pretty much all cases), and then there are other cases where I’m torn. I do a lot of thrift shopping, including at the very low-end of the spectrum like Goodwill, and so I really come across all ranges of clothing, including many that look dated, and then sometimes those that look so dated they look funky to me. And since my overall style tends towards funky, and I’m open to experimenting and taking some “fashion risks”, I have worn items that to someone else might look dated (e.g. I have a houndstooth skirt from over 10 years ago whose cut/length that haven’t been “on trend” for many years, but I wear it at least a couple of times every winter because I think it’s cute and I can make it work by combinging it with updated items, just as you suggest above. On the other hand, I have a couple of super-cropped little cardis in my closet that have been “closet orphans” for a long time because they look dated to me, even though I only bought them about 2 years ago.

It’s a tricky business for sure! It seems like whether sometime seems “dated” has a lot to do with one’s fashion persona, though I think there is also another element to it. A few of the items that I think of as “dated” are items that were HUGE trends for a year or two, not just fringe trends. They took a while to catch on, and might not even have been the easiest things to adopt for women, but they made it into the mainstream with a vengeance. Examples: the above-mentioned culotte/gaucho pants; tied cropped cardis like ballet dancers wear; spaghetti strap dresses over tees [though I hear those are coming back, so no longer dated, oh my]. Maybe these things look so dated after a while because the fashion market was SO flooded with them for a while, and then utter fatigue with the trend set in. I mean, boot cut jeans for instance don’t look dated to me, even though skinnies are definitely the trendier and more “current” cut. But boot cut jeans are also a much more universally flattering item than, say, gaucho pants. Anyway, I think I’m not quite sure where I’m going with this, but I think there is some other element besides fashion persona that contributes heavily to whether a specific item will end up being seen as very dated or just merely not on trend.

HaHa! When I read the title of this post, I had a visceral reaction. I was ready to fight for the “poor old dated” item of clothing. That’s the one thing that annoys me about TV shows like WNTW. I am convinced that as long as a good quality, good construction item fits well, it can and should be saved. Your four instances are exactly how I would, myself, come to a resolution. I’m glad that you look at each item and make a decision on a case by case basis. Whew!

It’s hard to let go of good quality favorite items. I remember the sadness of parting with several Max Mara and Anne Klein II (going back to the Louis Dell’olio era) jackets. Several were 8-10 years old, but when big shoulders went out, they were out.

I have a storage box with two designer dresses from the late 80s and a 1960s prom dress. They are out of my closet, and although they don’t fit now, I have no intention of letting them go. Well, not yet.

Generally I don’t have a problem with letting go of most things, but the items that were more expensive, even though I bought them on sale, are hard to give away. After all, I can always keep them one more year, and then decide.

Great post, Angie. “Dated” is a very relative term so I have thoroughly enjoyed reading everyone’s posts about this topic.

I just completed a MAJOR purge of my closet and feel SO free!

I DO follow and experiment with trends, avoid fads and ultimately go for timeless, yet modern, classic fashions with my own funky twist added for KILLER effect.

10 years ago I was twelve lol
so I’ll have to wait ten years to put all these into practice :P

Angie, this is a great subject, and clearly one for our times as many of us recoil from fashion churn and the buy/toss cycle we are pressured to follow.

I don’t think I’m the only one who would have LOVED to have you show us some examples of “before” and “after” – the dated item either by itself or within its original very dated ensemble, and then remixed into a current successful outfit. Could you show us a few? It fun and inspirational to see what you come up with.

Silly browser…I am sure I typed “it WOULD BE fun…”

So insightful, Angie, this topic of personal style lately has me really looking at what that is for me. I’m so looking forward to the forum posts to get more ideas about having a little fun combining so different options I might have.

I do have some items in my wardrobe which are (almost) ten years old. I have a Stella McCartney for Chloe dress which never fails to make me feel amazing. I don’t think it looks dated because it is a serious nod to forties glamour and the forties always appears to be in vogue. I want to save this dress, along with a couple of other pieces for the girls when they are older. I may not be able to offer them a silver spoon and diamonds but a vintage handbag.. you bet.

Very high trend items do seem to become stuck to a particular era and I’m also guilty of passing along items when they become a common ensemble at the supermarket or playground.

You have given me much to ponder.

Honestly, I fall into the category of “pass it along within a year or two because you’re on to the next trend.” And thanks to Angie, I don’t even feel guilty about saying that! It makes sense for me to have a small wardrobe (not counting my 150 dresses :) ) because things will move in and move out quickly.

In the past, I have saved items, especially special occasion items and business formal items. Only one has actually been worn multiple times in 15 years – a cream colored, portrait-collared jacket that is killer with a string of pearls and a black pencil skirt. Originally, in the 90s, I wore it with a long, straight skirt (to the ankles). But somehow, the jacket never dates.

Thank you for helping us to think about this issue with a clear head. I have in the past been one who just could not let go of my clothes even though I had not worn them in years. They were my clothes and they represented a period of time in my life. I guess I was sentimental about it.
Not so much now. I’m ready to have more fun.
Angie, I love your advice for vintage or thrifted pieces; remix with other items to make it more currant. It’s all visual, we are not going to admire what a great deal has been made, and forgive the bad fit and dinginess, unless you wear the price tags on the items. I have nothing against thrifting with good judgement, or buying anything at a great deal. I happen to not have the patience for thrifting, but I do admire those who do and look great.

This is a great post. Gives me a lot to think about. I was pretty ruthless with my closet purge but I have one item that I was going to bring to Seattle and forgot it that I would like to see if I can make it work at all or shold just hang onto it for sentimental reasons. I will try and get a picture tonight.

This makes me want to have all my friends over to go through my closet to get opinions whether an item can be revamped or not. Sometimes it just takes a new pair of eyes, since we are all used to wearing our own things a certain way.

I have a hard time parting with some items. Right now I can still convince myself that maybe my daughter can bring some items back to life when she gets older. We’ll see. Luckily, my mother saved some things, and just this morning I asked her if she still has a particular black dress I came across from a late ’60′s family movie. Yes! Hopefully, I’ll be wearing it this winter. :)

This gal does an excellent job at styling vintage clothing in (fairly) modern ways: http://secondskinstyle.blogspot.com/

This is so bang on!

Good points, and I hope I’ll be able to discern what to keep and what to give away when I purge my closet soon.

Very interesting, I don’t think I want to keep any dated items as my style is not emerging as very arty and a dated item is just going to look dated on me. I do admire those that can take vintage items and make them work with today’s pieces mixed in. This is an art form and not many can do this well. But I also think some items are just dated and no one and nothing can help them.

I really appreciate all of the thought that goes into your work, Angie! Being able to really understand a woman’s wants, needs, style, and context, and how they all interact, is an art!

I had a serious closet purge this summer:) I’m better at getting rid of dated shoes but I had to rely on YLF advice to determine if my blazer collection needed to go!

Interesting. I think I have items that are dated but have already been set aside in the giveaway pile. I may have to take a second look at my closet. :)

Great post. I haven’t seen anyone post this yet, but another easy tweak that sometimes works is replacing buttons. A lot of older jackets and dresses have big, bold buttons and switching them out can make the garment look more modern.

I have a green corduroy jacket that I love from J.Crew that is my dated-ish item. It doesn’t look so great with jeans anymore, but I recently tried it with a pencil skirt and button down shirt and I think it worked. I’ve been considering taking it to a tailor to see if they can shorten the length a bit. It hits me a little further down the hip than I’d like and most of the newer jackets I like are cut shorter than my J.Crew piece.

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